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2017/06/16 20:05:34 (permalink)

Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete shutdown and reboot.

Closed Sonar
 
Tried to reopen Sonar but nothing happens
 
Opened Task Manager to fine Sonar.exe still running
 
Tried to End Task but Access Denied!
 
Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete system shutdown and reboot.
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Re: Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete shutdown and reboot. 2017/06/16 20:13:08 (permalink)
Could be waiting on Bitbridge or interface drivers. If using 32bit plug-ins start by removing them.
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Re: Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete shutdown and reboot. 2017/06/16 20:20:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jacksop 2017/06/22 17:09:29
In my travels I have found this problem to be due to a driver not being released (something held hostage).
I would like to recommend something's but I have no idea of your soundcard or other devices.
4000+ posts and your OP and sig is blank. you should know better my friend.
Best fill your sig to get productive responses.
 
As steve mentioned bitbridge can be the culprit but so can a device driver.
 
PS- you don't need to reboot every time. I figured out a faster way myself back in the day when this used to happen to me.
1- Simply log out of Windows.
2- Log back in.
3- Done.
 
This eliminates the whole reboot and cuts down minutes off the process.

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Re: Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete shutdown and reboot. 2017/06/16 22:14:01 (permalink)
This used to happen to me routinely when I was using an MAudio 1010. 
 
Once I switched to RME interfaces it never happened again (no association, BTW).

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Re: Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete shutdown and reboot. 2017/06/16 22:32:54 (permalink)
Thanks all. I'll try the user log off next time. This occurrence was most likely due to kontakt loading 32 bit instead of 64 (see other post).
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Re: Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete shutdown and reboot. 2017/06/17 15:10:30 (permalink)
Sonar holds onto the midi connections for as much as 10 seconds after the UI closes on my system. Just wait a bit and load again. You can always force-close the app in task manager, but that's not been necessary for me.

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Re: Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete shutdown and reboot. 2017/06/17 15:22:02 (permalink)
Another alternative is to turn your audio interface off after exiting Sonar. Of course, turn it back on afterwards.
 
Every once in a while the same thing happens to me with Sonar.

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Re: Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete shutdown and reboot. 2017/06/17 16:25:31 (permalink)
soens
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Opened Task Manager to fine Sonar.exe still running
 
Tried to End Task but Access Denied!
 ...

 
A bit of a pain, but you should be able to end the process from the command prompt.  Steps given here:
 
https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-kill-a-process-if-your-access-is-denied

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Re: Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete shutdown and reboot. 2017/06/17 18:31:35 (permalink)
The problem with ending the process is the next time you open Sonar (after killing it in Task manager)
Your devices are missing.
Logging off or rebooting is the best way to assure your devices will be present the next time you open Sonar.
I had this problem for quite a long time until I switched Soundcards and midi devices.

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Re: Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete shutdown and reboot. 2017/06/18 04:06:02 (permalink)
I have had this problem many times in the past. Try to end it but it doesn't actually exit. I have come back 10 or 15 minutes later to find it did end at some point.
 
I know it is likely a driver not releasing but knowing that does not help the frustration. Luckily I have not had Sonar crash in a while.

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Re: Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete shutdown and reboot. 2017/06/18 07:16:51 (permalink)
I had this same problem a year ago with 32 bit Windows 7 and M-audio 1010lt pci soundcard. But on 64 bit Windows 10 with Focosrite usb soundcard this newer happens.

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Re: Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete shutdown and reboot. 2017/06/18 17:04:26 (permalink)
If Sonar won't die in the Task Manager I open Propellerhead Reason and then close it again. That releases the drivers and Sonar will boot up.
Never need to work the opposite way round though.

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Re: Ending Sonar sometimes requires complete shutdown and reboot. 2017/06/20 02:23:31 (permalink)
I'll try that next time.
 
Thanks for all the input, guys.
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