Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good?

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2005/02/02 23:48:35 (permalink)

Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good?

Guitar World gave it their 1 award and it is only $1100 for non sunburst finish.
Does anyone have anything to say about it? I need a new accoustic guitar.

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    joe b
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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/03 16:50:24 (permalink)
    My $.02:

    An old, good Gibson J45 costs an arm and a leg.

    IMO, The only way to tell if an Epi is good is to play it. One of the advantages of living in Los Angeles is that you can go to stores and play jillions of guitars before deciding what to buy. This is desirable, because: (1) even if you know in general what you want, two "identical" acoustic guitars can and will feel and sound different (this is true regardless of price - Even two Eric Johnson Signature Martins will be completely different); and, (2) you need to decide what kind of guitar you really want (e.g., jumbo/dreadnaught/OOO/parlor size? rosewood/mahogany/maple body? rosewood/ebony neck? cutaway? etc.).

    For $1100 you should be able to get a used, and maybe a new, good quality guitar with a solid top that feels good and plays well.

    Personally, I would also put aside some money to have a Buzz Feiten tuning modification done.

    Good luck on the hunt!
    post edited by joe b - 2005/02/03 16:58:54
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    mgaretz
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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/03 19:00:03 (permalink)
    See my reply to you in the Sonar forum where you asked about mics for the guitar.
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    kiwisdontdrinktea
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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/04 03:53:44 (permalink)
    Thanks guys. I will be hunting this weekend and next.

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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/04 14:38:01 (permalink)
    I would not pay $1100 for a current Epi, For that money there are some really fine acoustics still to be had. I just seen a 67' D-28 Martin go for $900 on Ebay that looked fine, and from a reputible seller....................JDW
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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/04 15:29:26 (permalink)
    You can get it for $1049 at Musicians Friend, but keep in mind that a Taylor 310 can be bought for the same price, and for $1250 you can get a Martin D-17. I suggest you play a few of them first and then look for the best price. One of the unusual features of the J-45 is the 24.75" scale length. Most of the Martins are 25.5" scale.

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_id/85742

    Check out the Martin D-16:

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=guitar/search/detail/base_pid/516747/





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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/05 03:25:12 (permalink)
    Once again thanks for all the info. Cheers.

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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/14 01:56:02 (permalink)
    I ended up with a Taylor 414 LE. I tried a few Martins D-16 and D-16R and the 16GT. Ended up walking out with the Taylor. Haven't recorded anything yet.

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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/14 05:22:58 (permalink)
    Hey the Taylor is what I would have done. I own 2, a Big Baby and a 710, Had them both for a few years. They have stayed consistant, are sounding better and better with age. Taylor is my personal choice of acoustic's on the market at this time. I think as time pass's you will feel your Taylor is one of the best investments you ever made. Now for a pickup system if thats what your into, I recomend Fishman, I have the Matrix series on both of my Taylors and have always been very happy with the Fishman system, when it's time to record or be heard. But Congrads again on a very wise choice..............JDW
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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/15 18:15:21 (permalink)
    Thanks for putting my mind at ease. The 414 LE comes with built in electronics (which I haven't tried yet). The Martins in this price range seemed to have a boxier sound which may be good for picking (not sure) in any case the Taylor has better highs and lows when strumming but you could say it was more clinical and less warm than the martins. I liked the Taylor sound more than the Martins. My only little peeve with it so far is some string buzz which the Martins did not have. The other Taylors I tried had a little string buzz too.

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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/16 03:17:41 (permalink)
    Cool Kiwi. A friend of mine has that system on his Taylor(forgot the model#) and it is a very pure,realistic pickup system. When pluged in, it sounds just like it did unplugged except louder. See I did not know the 414 came with that. I bought both my Taylors without installed systems. I have a couple of older Ovations (Elite & Celeberty) that I used for recording and live work. But I heard the Fishman and seen it did no structual damage to the guitars and so I splurged. Now the Ovations sit in their case's most of the time, but IMHO they are still nice guitars. The Celeberty sounds great for bottleneck. I want a National Dobro (THE BRASS KIND) But I been putting mega bucks into my studio and all I do is music for a living. So in time I'll get one. Well congrads again and watch that humidity, Taylors don't like humidity or sudden hot/cold............JDW
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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/17 12:21:49 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: kiwisdontdrinktea

    My only little peeve with it so far is some string buzz which the Martins did not have.



    Could this be a setup problem? Taylors are nice guitars, but they are mass produced, so you may benefit from taking it to a reputable shop to have it professionally set up. To the uninitiated, this sounds like a rip-off, but I now have done this on several guitars and have never regretted doing so.

    Also, while on my soap box, let me once again recommend a Buzz Feiten tuning modification. Once you play a guitar that has this feature, you will never go back. It is expensive but well worth saving for.

    Congratulations on the purchase - I hope you play the frets off that sucker!
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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/17 13:15:25 (permalink)
    Can't go wrong with a Taylor.
    Best tone and playability on the market, IMO.
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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/17 13:17:12 (permalink)
    Can't go wrong with a Taylor.
    Best tone and playability on the market, IMO.


    Please disregard the Ovation in my avatar.

    The only reason it's there is I haven't taken a picture of my 710ce yet.

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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/17 15:52:43 (permalink)
    wkeever, You read what I said about Ovations did you not ?.........JDW
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    RE: Epiphone Elitist J-45 any good? 2005/02/17 16:23:28 (permalink)
    wkeever, You read what I said about Ovations did you not ?.........JDW


    Yes, and I agree they are good guitars. They sound pretty good unplugged and they sound great plugged. That one is my Legend 12-String that I've had for about 8 years.
    Great sounding 12-String, but I have little use for a 12-String.
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