Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1?

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2011/10/21 22:46:03 (permalink)

Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1?

Is anyone using Eucon support in X1?  I am really trying to find a control surface that is better than Novation Automap and cant find anything close.  Basically I just found out that VS-700c doesnt support 64 bit!  So thats out! I am stunned that sonar who hung their hat on 64bit hasnt updated thier flagship controller to support it.  amazing.  Euphonix stuff is the only thing Ive seen that really looks well integrated but I cant tell if X1 still supports eucon. 

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    Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2011/10/21 23:06:54 (permalink)
    The VS-700c, and every V-Studio device for that matter, most certainly does fully support x64. :-) Where did you find out this mis-information?
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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2011/10/21 23:36:59 (permalink)
    As for the EuCon Control Surface Plug-in, it's available for download for the SONAR 8.5 update support, and that article says it supports SONAR 7, 8, and 8.5. I don't know why it's not listed as a download under SONAR X1 support. I can't imagine that Cakewalk would take away support for the EuCon controllers in X1.

    Maybe someone from Cakewalk will chime in. :)


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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2011/10/21 23:38:03 (permalink)
    Sorry, I don't really know the ins and outs of EuCon support as I've no hands on experience with those controllers.
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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2011/10/21 23:52:22 (permalink)
    Im happy to be wrong but I was reading it on the vs700 forums here and then couldnt find any indication that it did support it.
     
    I really think the vs700 looks like the best control surface (im still trying to get a really good understanding of the pre's in the 700R) If it does run on 64bit then it remains my top contender for my next upgrade.  I just wish there was a consule desk that fit it really well.  I cant seem to find one.  I'm also concerned that the vs700 still ships with 8.5 instead of x1.  Not sure why that would be if it fully supports x1.

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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2011/10/22 00:00:12 (permalink)
    Everything in the VS-700 works in x64. You can get the control surface separately and it has its own x64 driver, or you can buy the entire package and and it has its unified driver for the interface and console. Perhaps the people in the VS-700 forum were talking about the Fantom VS. While it does work in SONAR x64, it is not a native x64 plugin and runs via Bit-bridge, but it does work. The control surface also fully works with X1, including the ProChannel, etc. I'm not sure which version of SONAR ships in the VS-700 box, though. You would have to contact Roland for that, or check out www.rolandus.com. Hope that helps. :-)
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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2011/10/22 10:21:54 (permalink)
    If it hasn't changed, then the V-Studio 700 originally included SONAR 8.

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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2011/10/22 19:08:49 (permalink)
    I could have sworn I just saw an ad for it (V700) that named X1 Essentials as bundled...

    I'll try to find it again...

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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2011/10/22 21:07:30 (permalink)
    I have Sonar x1c and am running with an Artist Mix and an Artist Transport. How can I help?

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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2011/10/23 05:22:40 (permalink)
    Yes the 700C is the best control surface option IMO for Sonar and it certainly does run perfectly fine under 64bit. Could use some flexibility update however for X1 but nothing that's a show stopper.... yet.

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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2011/10/23 20:59:40 (permalink)
    creynolds,
     
    Are you using it in 64bit for Sonar X1c?  if so how are you able to do this?
     
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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2012/11/08 03:57:44 (permalink)

    This is a post from a Google search 
    EUCON Control Surface Support for SONAR X1 - Cakewalk www.cakewalk.com › Support › Knowledge Base
    24 Jan 2012 – Avid and Cakewalk have teamed together to update the EUCON Control...  http://euphonix.avid.com/artist/ux/euphonix/my-artist-series.php ...


    Same  problems with not being able to keep buss selected on the touch screen of  Avid Artist control used with X1 as with X2. slow walk tech support has been aware of the issue for a long time now . Still no action with this driver. Cubase and protools do not have these issues It is my own fault for being stupid and shelling out more money for X2.   Cakewalk, you can pass the buck as much as you want but it is the last one of mine you will have to pass. You don't even list the known problems with this driver in your knowledge base.  I will  ask my sales rep at L& M  to bring  this on going issue to Roland's attention again. 
    post edited by anniedog - 2012/11/08 04:05:04
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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2012/11/08 04:49:11 (permalink)
    Slow Walk? Classic.... made me smile, thanks Annie.

    Glad I stopped looking at the Eucon as an option for X2 so thanks for the update.

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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2012/11/08 09:04:59 (permalink)
    I used the Euphonics for X1 and now for X2. It works pretty swell for me. 
    Did I just say "swell"

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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2012/11/08 12:22:09 (permalink)
    CJaysMusic


    I used the Euphonics for X1 and now for X2. It works pretty swell for me. 
    Did I just say "swell"

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    That's good to hear.  I just bought an MC/Artist Transport as an early Christmas present to myself.  I bought it primarily for PT10, but I'm hoping that it plays well with X2.


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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2012/11/08 14:17:13 (permalink)
    The Artist mix works but the the Artist MC Control is the problem child that does not keep touch screen busses selected. I did use the VS 700 system at one time ,however the limited IO and form fo true expansion given the bandwidth on the USB2 and the limited sample rate with the ADAT Optical outputs. I had  to have the USB inputs replaced on both  V studio 700c and V studio R   ,because they became loose and unreliable. finally they stopped working all together  and I switched to RME UFX and the Artist controls. I also own Cubase 6.5 and Protools ten and no issues with the Avid artist series controller on those  plat forms or in fact no issues with UAD quad card. The only reason I  bought X2 is that  I  have used it as my main DAW since version 7. The issues of bad coding seem to multiply with every new issue. i really thing it is time certain people choose another career path before the brand reputation goes too far south to save. Look at Avid ,****ty service, still 32 bit,0 customer service without paying extra money , but usually stable and it still remains arguably the most used  DAW. Functionality, stability and honesty are  needed commodities, not new bells and whistles . I don't understand why this concept is so difficult for cakewalk to grasp. This Daw Should not be treated as a toy any more but a professional audio recording and production tool. When this tool fails users loose money and client respect. Get with it Cakewalk!
     
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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2012/11/08 15:20:38 (permalink)
    they're investigating a euphonix issue at the mo ( http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?high=&m=2672185&mpage=1#2678282 ) so now might be a good time to (re-)report the buss selection issue?

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    Re:Euphonix/Avid Artist Series and Sonar X1? 2012/11/09 02:58:51 (permalink)
    The issues have been reported to them by phone, by Email, by the tech support route numerous times. By me, By my    L& M rep, to  the Roland Canada VP.  
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