Even Me - Jehovah Shammah - first acoustic (rev C)

Author
BretB
Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 508
  • Joined: 2010/01/17 18:24:00
  • Location: Oklahoma
  • Status: offline
2011/03/01 01:56:56 (permalink)

Even Me - Jehovah Shammah - first acoustic (rev C)

This would be our first acoustic recording.  Looking for something clean and simple.  Shaker is Roland GrooveSynth and the percussion is a cajon played by me.  Bass is electric as we didn't have an acoustic.  Might be cheating on that one.  This would also be my first complete project on Producer X1.
 
I would like much input both technical and musical.  Its not to late to re track a part if really bad.  Thanks in advance.
 
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=10339728
post edited by BretB - 2011/03/02 22:52:07

Sonar Platinum - A&H ZED R16 - KRK VXT4's - Yamaha DTXpress IV & Gretsch Catalina Maple kits
 
"Music is what feelings sound like"
https://soundcloud.com/bret575b
#1

29 Replies Related Threads

    rockinrobby
    Max Output Level: -65 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1265
    • Joined: 2010/06/17 19:28:24
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/01 02:28:48 (permalink)
    Fear...



    http://www.reverbnation.com/rockinrobby

    Evil lurks here among us again... "Beware."
    #2
    malcolmb
    Max Output Level: -76 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 713
    • Joined: 2008/06/11 14:43:05
    • Location: Isle of Wight - England
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/01 09:32:25 (permalink)
    If this is your first acoustic recording, I strongly recommend you do more. A lovely song wonderfully sung by your outstanding singer. I will leave the technical aspects to the many here far better able to comment than I. Musically, the piece worked well although I would have liked a more dominant drum set to help drive the piece. I have some reservations about the short lead guitar piece towards the end - doesn't quite work for me. Other than that, there were points in the piece when I was waiting for the guitars to change chord (0.38 is an example) but this is a very minor issue. Overall, I loved this piece.

    (Just a very minor point that I make regularly here. Please would you post the lyrics with the piece. Some of us like to sing along. But obviously with my voice, not when any one else can hear!).

    Best Regards
    Malcolm


    HS 7 XL
    XP Prof.
    4 GB memory
    GPO, VSL, Music Lab Real Guitar/LPC, EWQLSC, Vocaloid Miriam/Avanna 
    Soundcard - Marian Marc 4 Midi

    www.soundclick.com/malcolmbrown
    www.soundclick.com/lylemusic
    www.youtube.com/user/LyleMusic
    #3
    morenoise
    Max Output Level: -69 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1074
    • Joined: 2010/05/02 09:48:12
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/01 12:01:31 (permalink)
    Hi Bretb, don't want to start of pedantic but it's Jehova, not Jahova. Nice song if a bit generic, sorry.  Singing is nice. The acoustic guitar that's playing the lead lines could be a little louder, imho, and a bit more in tune. I don't want to come over all negative because this certainly has potential .

    Greetings Rik
    #4
    Guitarhacker
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 24398
    • Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
    • Location: NC
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/01 12:17:20 (permalink)
    Nice recording. A bit dry, a bit of reverb and a touch of melodyne on the vox would have been perfect.



    My website & music: www.herbhartley.com

    MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW   
    Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface


    BMI/NSAI

    "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer 
    #5
    Psalmist35
    Max Output Level: -61 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1471
    • Joined: 2005/12/31 11:11:33
    • Location: North Carolina
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/01 12:41:49 (permalink)
    Nice song.  Good vocalist.  I agree with Herb that there are a couple of pitchy spots.  I thought I also heard a few timing issues not sure.
     
    This comment is more a personal one for me but I think this arrangement sounds a bit dated.  It reminds me of the Hosana Integrity & Vineyard days of the late 80's early 90's.  That's not a bad thing just something to consider if you're trying to target a specific listener.

    George Foreman Grill; Ginsu knifes; Clapper; Home Grown Intel i7 -6700K 16G Ram; Sonar Platinum; MOTU 896HD; Tascam US2400; 

    My Music
    #6
    acoustigod
    Max Output Level: -88 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 104
    • Joined: 2011/01/09 00:39:09
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/01 13:31:39 (permalink)
    This is really good for your first recording, if that's the case.

    Some tips:

    1. Don't limit the track so much. Add back in some dynamic range. Right now the range very small and the RMS is too low. It should about -10db RMS. This value is accounting for the +3.

    2. Use an eq on the master bus and remove 1-2db from 1-2k... maybe 1.5k. It's too nasaly, which is basically a common problem with every mix out of the box just about these days.

    3. Maybe apply some noise reduction on all the tracks too. I hear some crackling/noise that isn't that nice warm analog kind of noise :/ That's a smaller nit-pick though.

    4. Add some delay and reverb to the vocals. Give it some space. It sounds to flat and meshed with everything.

    5. Create a wider stereo image. Start panning everything, and if that's not possible, start widening the whole track.

    Just some thoughts
    post edited by acoustigod - 2011/03/01 13:47:22

    Need a song, demo or album mixed to sound great? Why waste weeks or months learning how to mix when I'm sure you'd rather spend your time writing songs and performing gigs? I can mix your tracks so that they sound fantastic. My rates are very affordable. Send me a PM to find out more.
    #7
    BretB
    Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 508
    • Joined: 2010/01/17 18:24:00
    • Location: Oklahoma
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/01 14:46:53 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the great input.

    I suck at spelling but really should have got Jehovah right. 

    I have not yet looked at the vocals with v-vocal or melodine but I will.

    It is very dry as there has not yet been any delay or verb added to any tracks, but there will be after the comments.  I understand that it should be very little.

    I have noticed the lack of dynamics on this also but not sure how to improve on it.  There is some use of compressor using the ProChannel but only the slightest amount to keep things in check.  None of these instuments are very dynamic.

    As far as noise reduction on the tracks, I tried to get the guitar players not to breath but they couldn't finish the song.  So we allowed this.  Have to check on the "crackle".

    Thanks for all of your inputs, keep them comming.  I will be going back to the mix to make some changes in the near future.
    post edited by BretB - 2011/03/01 15:30:37

    Sonar Platinum - A&H ZED R16 - KRK VXT4's - Yamaha DTXpress IV & Gretsch Catalina Maple kits
     
    "Music is what feelings sound like"
    https://soundcloud.com/bret575b
    #8
    acoustigod
    Max Output Level: -88 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 104
    • Joined: 2011/01/09 00:39:09
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/01 15:06:13 (permalink)
    The noise I'm referring to isn't breathing - it's actually noise.

    Here are some tracks that are crystal clear:
    http://soundcloud.com/fec...rt-st-willow-stay-even
    http://soundcloud.com/fec...ic-education-night-owl
    http://soundcloud.com/fec...erguide/blue-matches-x

    .etc (there's quite a few on my page there)

    Listen to my mixes and compare with yours and you'll see what I mean. Listen to the high frequencies.

    Need a song, demo or album mixed to sound great? Why waste weeks or months learning how to mix when I'm sure you'd rather spend your time writing songs and performing gigs? I can mix your tracks so that they sound fantastic. My rates are very affordable. Send me a PM to find out more.
    #9
    BretB
    Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 508
    • Joined: 2010/01/17 18:24:00
    • Location: Oklahoma
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/01 15:34:26 (permalink)
    I am sure the noises are the guitar tracks.  I will listen intently and correct if possible.  Thanks for sharing your examples.  The first track is great and I especially enjoyed the percussion.  Thanks for your input acoustigod.

    Sonar Platinum - A&H ZED R16 - KRK VXT4's - Yamaha DTXpress IV & Gretsch Catalina Maple kits
     
    "Music is what feelings sound like"
    https://soundcloud.com/bret575b
    #10
    acoustigod
    Max Output Level: -88 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 104
    • Joined: 2011/01/09 00:39:09
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/01 15:57:10 (permalink)
    compress each track by a huge amount. Solo each track. If you hear a lot of noise due the compression, then you need to remove it.

    What often happens is that a little noise across 30 tracks builds up to sound like a lot of noise. Some tracks will obviously be worse than others. It can be guitar amp noise, but a lot of the times it's just noise due to ground loops and other problems. Every signal has some noise in it. Amazing recordings usually don't have much at all, but there is still some (usually you want to keep that in there actually).

    Soloing each track though, with a compressor/limiter to boost it is the way to find this out. After a short time, you won't need the extra compression/limiter to hear the noise, but this is a good way to start. The target is to compress the heck out of it and still have it be crystal, sparkling silent.

    Need a song, demo or album mixed to sound great? Why waste weeks or months learning how to mix when I'm sure you'd rather spend your time writing songs and performing gigs? I can mix your tracks so that they sound fantastic. My rates are very affordable. Send me a PM to find out more.
    #11
    Philip
    Max Output Level: -34.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4062
    • Joined: 2007/03/21 13:09:13
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/01 19:14:00 (permalink)
    When it comes to music, there's no cheating, IMHO.  To be real, you've proclaimed the message.  I know the Word commands to "play skillfully with a stringed instrument" ... and/or "make a joyful noise to the Lord" ... and/or preach/sing/teach the gospel (death, burial, and resurrection of Jehovah-Is-Salvation).  (all 3 take a lot of skill!)

    "The LORD Shammah" ... Ouch!  had to look it up --haha!

    Pensive message: 10/10
    Acoustic guitar chiming 10/10.

    Song and style seems to be unique and sprouting.  Some improvements, perhaps:
    1) More vox verb ... less in your face ... to make her more pensive (per spiritual groaning)
    2) More Hass fx on acoustic guitars (wide-panned)
    3) More vocals joining in half way ... to allow this to be hymn-like, convincing, public, and less-self-centered.  That might invite me to groan for deliverence more.
    4) Allow a proven song-structure like: AAAA, ABABAB, AABA, verse-chorus, etc. ... to make this more mainstream-pop ...
    5) The hook "Shammah", is easily forgotten; I'd have preferred "The Lord is There" repeated over and over.
    6) To make this 'Gospel', I'd have boldly begged the Death Burial and Ressurecton more explicitly, shifting the focus from myBattles.  But, the message is still 10/10 ... as I relate to this to my sin-sores and many o.t. psalms follow this pattern.
    7) Buy a 'black-gospel' groove or 10 at producerloops.com and burst out of the CCM-drudge, Assembly-of-God, Hozannah-stereotype ... a problem for psalmists (of Alabama) ... the o.t. cliche of Jewish words, no Resurrection glories, etc. 

    Again, these are all personal and spiritual, so I may be wrong to encourage you to invade other genres, grooves, instruments, and percussives.  There is a praise-song of your genre I'm madly in love with, the copyrighted: "Hozanna to the King".  (A hellish shame, IMO, 'Christians' have to copyright God's songs (and God's Holy Bibles) and charge royalties for others to sing the free Gospel)

    Philip  
    (Isa 5:12 And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the work of the LORD)

    Raised-Again 3http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12307501
    #12
    Guitarhacker
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 24398
    • Joined: 2007/12/07 12:51:18
    • Location: NC
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/01 20:31:01 (permalink)
    Philip.... allow me to be a bit sarcastic..... and apologies to Bret for the temporary hijack..... I'm working on a song..... the ressurection gospel message. It will be released here in a few weeks.... maybe more. Anyway, I am working with Albert to put it to video since the lyrics are telling a story. I sent the Jesus DVD to Albert and he proceeded to use clips from it. I decided, after my wife asked me if I had asked permission form the film company, to contact them and ask for permission and or pay the licensing if it was reasonable to do this legally.

    Keep in mind this is THE JESUS FILM that is given away FREE worldwide to anyone who wants a copy.

    I wrote to them and they replied in 1 day. NO..... you can NOT use any of the materail from the JESUS DVD in your project. It is copyrighted material and permission is NOT granted for use, and licensing is also NOT available for it.

    We have had to fall back to plan B.... I will be getting some legal video and stills soon. Stay tuned.....

    We now return you to the original thread...already in progress.

    My website & music: www.herbhartley.com

    MC4/5/6/X1e.c, on a Custom DAW   
    Focusrite Firewire Saffire Interface


    BMI/NSAI

    "Just as the blade chooses the warrior, so too, the song chooses the writer 
    #13
    Kroneborge
    Max Output Level: -65 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1300
    • Joined: 2011/01/18 22:14:58
    • Location: Lompoc CA (near Santa Barbara)
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/01 21:29:16 (permalink)
    First, like the song, playing and singing

    second what Acousticgod said.

    The first thing I thought was WOW this is loud, everything was really in my face (and I do hip hop etc most of the time).

    A little bit of tweaking though this could be a really nice tune.


    Mathew

    Hip Hop
    http://www.soundclick.com...ault.cfm?bandID=213418

    BreakBeats
    http://www.soundclick.com...ault.cfm?bandID=219099

    i7 12 gb ram, Komplete 5, Izotope Ozone & Stutter, Symphonic Orchestra Plat.


    #14
    Philip
    Max Output Level: -34.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4062
    • Joined: 2007/03/21 13:09:13
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/02 00:23:59 (permalink)
    Guitarhacker


    Philip.... allow me to be a bit sarcastic..... and apologies to Bret for the temporary hijack..... I'm working on a song..... the ressurection gospel message. It will be released here in a few weeks.... maybe more. Anyway, I am working with Albert to put it to video since the lyrics are telling a story. I sent the Jesus DVD to Albert and he proceeded to use clips from it. I decided, after my wife asked me if I had asked permission form the film company, to contact them and ask for permission and or pay the licensing if it was reasonable to do this legally.

    Keep in mind this is THE JESUS FILM that is given away FREE worldwide to anyone who wants a copy.

    I wrote to them and they replied in 1 day. NO..... you can NOT use any of the materail from the JESUS DVD in your project. It is copyrighted material and permission is NOT granted for use, and licensing is also NOT available for it.

    We have had to fall back to plan B.... I will be getting some legal video and stills soon. Stay tuned.....

    We now return you to the original thread...already in progress.

    Herb and Bret,
     
    I just paid $25 for a mechanical license to sing a forgotten Christian Hymn written in 1950's by the Tenn Printing Co., called "Win The Lost at Any Cost" (that gives me about 255 legal copies, all non-profit).  I feel quite unsettled about it (as I'm sure the composor (probably dead) feels in Heaven ... "Win the Lo$t at Any Co$t"
     
    Personally, I strongly sympathize with your (Herb's) dilemma and would have expected any devout Christian film maker to be honored and also honor God by allowing free distribution of the resurrection gospel by you or others.  Of course producers rationalize their holier-than-thou reasons ... as if you/I would dishonor or somehow pollute their gospel.  TBH, I suspect you threaten their financial support somehow ... like the Red-Cross CEO who makes more than the Blue Cross CEO ... though the one gives out medicine for free.  God knows.
     
    It may be that laws will change for the better, when folks publicly condemn religiou$ hypocrites in film and music, equating them to devils, lawyers, hypocrites, etc.  Personally, I'd be scared to death if I'd be discovered restraining the gospel.  As for my productions, I hope they remain free to the uttermost ... (since I'm blessed with a day job working with my hands).
     
    Bret, many apologies for hijacking!  If you ever want to collab a piece, pm me.

    Philip  
    (Isa 5:12 And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the work of the LORD)

    Raised-Again 3http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12307501
    #15
    BretB
    Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 508
    • Joined: 2010/01/17 18:24:00
    • Location: Oklahoma
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/02 22:51:13 (permalink)
    I have now revised the mix based on your great comments.  This forum is great to focus your attention on areas that might have been overlooked.  I am trying to be a good student of the art.  Hope you like the new mix and comment on any additional requirements to a final product.  Thanks again!
     
    I can't use v-vocal until after X1b comes out.  X1a crashes on every attempt.
    post edited by BretB - 2011/03/02 22:53:52

    Sonar Platinum - A&H ZED R16 - KRK VXT4's - Yamaha DTXpress IV & Gretsch Catalina Maple kits
     
    "Music is what feelings sound like"
    https://soundcloud.com/bret575b
    #16
    acoustigod
    Max Output Level: -88 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 104
    • Joined: 2011/01/09 00:39:09
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/02 23:09:19 (permalink)
    I wouldn't worry too much about v-vocal. You can use delays and reverbs to mask slight tuning problems anyway, and it'll give the added bonus of adding space and connection to the rest of the band anyway. In some ways, natural is better than overly processed although it depends what you're going for. I think some of the things I've said and others have said are a lot more important than v-vocal anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it.

    Need a song, demo or album mixed to sound great? Why waste weeks or months learning how to mix when I'm sure you'd rather spend your time writing songs and performing gigs? I can mix your tracks so that they sound fantastic. My rates are very affordable. Send me a PM to find out more.
    #17
    BretB
    Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 508
    • Joined: 2010/01/17 18:24:00
    • Location: Oklahoma
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/08 08:49:34 (permalink)
    After revision, no comments.  Is it done or behond hope?  Thanks in advance.

    Sonar Platinum - A&H ZED R16 - KRK VXT4's - Yamaha DTXpress IV & Gretsch Catalina Maple kits
     
    "Music is what feelings sound like"
    https://soundcloud.com/bret575b
    #18
    morenoise
    Max Output Level: -69 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1074
    • Joined: 2010/05/02 09:48:12
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/08 09:27:47 (permalink)
    Hi Bret, It's a nice song but listening to it again I still don't like that acoustic lead guitar. To me it sounds out of tune, most noticable on the higher notes. There's always hope, I hope .

    Greetings , Rik
    #19
    evadianepug
    Max Output Level: -30.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4477
    • Joined: 2008/07/11 20:53:21
    • Location: Phoenix, Arizona
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/10 11:37:29 (permalink)
    I commented on one last week.  This must be a new one.  You spelled Jehovah wrong on that post?  Either way, it really doesn't sound acoustic to me.  I totally like it and I love the singer's voice!!  It seems somehow that she's back in the mix or something.  Seems loud enough but not totally present.  Other guys up here can give suggestions and maybe I'm wrong.  I think she has a beautiful voice but it seems thin in the mix.  IMHO

     Fairy tales do not tell children that dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed. (GK Chesterton

    Warren (Pug) Willingham
    THE PUGTONES
    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=919339&content=music
    SonarX3
    #20
    Beagle
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 50621
    • Joined: 2006/03/29 11:03:12
    • Location: Fort Worth, TX
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/11 21:59:03 (permalink)
    Hey, Brett,
    this is a really nice song!  vocalist is very good through most of the song, but there are a couple of pitchy areas.  guitar might be a little pitchy as well.  the song could certainly use a little stereo widening/panning.

    very nice work, tho, very nice song overall and the points I make above are not major but fixing them would really make this shine!

    http://soundcloud.com/beaglesound/sets/featured-songs-1
    i7, 16G DDR3, Win10x64, MOTU Ultralite Hybrid MK3
    Yamaha MOXF6, Hammond XK3c, other stuff.
    #21
    Janet
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 8094
    • Joined: 2010/01/02 19:04:11
    • Location: Missouri
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/11 23:09:49 (permalink)
    I agree...she has a beautiful voice and this is a nice tune.  I have no idea how to help you with the mix, but the guys that have posted do.  Keep up the good work!
    #22
    karalie7@aol.com
    Max Output Level: -76 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 712
    • Joined: 2007/12/01 22:14:26
    • Location: Portland, Oregon
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/12 02:32:42 (permalink)
    The vocal is nice and the guitar is good. Not crazy so much about drums, maybe take it back some. Lyrics are sweet. Good job and keep praising.
    #23
    jsaras
    Max Output Level: -49 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2642
    • Joined: 2003/12/07 10:40:00
    • Location: Pasadena, CA-The Center of the Universe!
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/12 10:54:49 (permalink)
    The mix elements are all recorded fairly well...though I detected a little background noise somewhere in there that should be gated. 

    The mix is very one-dimensional.  At minimum, there should be a "front" and a "back" to most mixes. Your mix has a lot of "front".  Even if you just had one small element of your mix that was wet (reverb), dark (treble rolled off a touch with EQ) and softer in volume.  I'd probably go for just the snare (or whatever that is that's playing the back beat).

    In any event, this could be made to sound terrific in about 10 minutes.

    Peace,
    Jonas

    http://www.audiorecordingandservices.com ("one minute free" mastering)

    http://tinyurl.com/3n6kj (free Sonar mixing template and Ozone mastering preset)
    #24
    mstodge
    Max Output Level: -71 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 984
    • Joined: 2008/06/09 08:44:13
    • Location: Liverpool England
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/14 06:23:22 (permalink)
    I didn't have a chance to listen to previous versions of the mix, but this one sounded ok, if a little narrow.

    The song cuts off at the end, was this your intention?

    Mark.
    #25
    BretB
    Max Output Level: -80 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 508
    • Joined: 2010/01/17 18:24:00
    • Location: Oklahoma
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/14 10:13:39 (permalink)
    Thanks for all of the great input.  I will make a few minor tweeks and go to the next project.  Mark, don't know about the ending for you, it should gradually fade out.  I just played the track and thats what it did.  Jonas, I will try to add some depth to the mix.

    Not crazy about the drums either but it is as good I can playing on a wooden box.

    Sonar Platinum - A&H ZED R16 - KRK VXT4's - Yamaha DTXpress IV & Gretsch Catalina Maple kits
     
    "Music is what feelings sound like"
    https://soundcloud.com/bret575b
    #26
    patm300e
    Max Output Level: -74 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 845
    • Joined: 2007/09/28 09:14:18
    • Location: USA - Maryland
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/14 10:27:48 (permalink)
    All in all a nice tune would like to hear more shine on the vocals...

    If possible, pan the percussion out of the way of the lead vocals.  They are fighting for space.  If it is mono, double the track and full pan right and left.  This will open up more room for the lead vocals.

    If you can't use v-vocal, try using the Vintage channel with a reverb plug-in.  It will help with the spacial portion (but not the tuning which imho is not all that bad).

    I personally feel we auto-tune too much these days.  If it is out of tune, re-record it...The track limits of yesterday is gone and layering works well too.  Record 7 different takes on 7 different tracks then use automation to make it as one vocal track. 


    SPLAT on a Home built i3 16 GB RAM 64-bit Windows 10 Home Premium 120GB SSD (OS) 2TB Data Drive.  Behringer XR-18 USB 2.0 Interface. FaderPort control.
    #27
    jamesyoyo
    Max Output Level: -40.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3460
    • Joined: 2007/09/08 17:50:10
    • Location: Factory Yoyo Prods Ltd.
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/14 16:47:18 (permalink)
    There is a noticeable drag on the beat somewhere around 2:30 or so.  That can be fixed.

    Could use some dynamics, as a lot of P&W tunes get so bogged down with 'holiness' that they lose their sights on making it a better song.

    I like the singer's voice, but it is really buried back there on this version. Take a few minutes to listen to it solo'd and fix the bum notes. You are close with this, so make it right. 

    Not a big fan of the genre, though have listened to more than most, I would reckon.  

    #28
    paulo
    Max Output Level: -13 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 6218
    • Joined: 2007/01/30 05:06:57
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/14 18:29:47 (permalink)
    Had a very quick scan of the other posts, so not much to add other than that the mix translates pretty well onto lappy speakers. I'm not crazy about the percussion sound either, but having just looked up what a cajon actually is, I can see how maybe you can't do  too much to alter it. Maybe a little drop in level and a bit of reverb to push it back a little. I like her voice.
    #29
    blipp
    Max Output Level: -5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 7006
    • Joined: 2004/11/22 17:43:50
    • Location: UK
    • Status: offline
    Re:Even Me - Jahovah Shammah - first acoustic 2011/03/16 18:03:31 (permalink)
    Tis is excellent for a first acoustic recording Bret.

    The guitar sounds great on my speakers and so does the mix.

    Lovely vocals that are perfect for this track.


    #30
    Jump to:
    © 2024 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1