Event Inspector no longer allows editing - was possible in X3

This came up in the Note Duration thread - I'm putting it in an own thread because I am doing a MIDI specific project right now.
 
If you want to set many MIDI notes to, say, the same velocity, in X3 I would just select all those notes,
Click on "Vel" in the Events Inspector and the value would become editable - an Edit box with + and - buttons.
 
Now, in SPlat Lexington, if I open the Event Inspector and click on any of those fields, nothing happens.
Is there a setting for this?

It works here but it needs to be open before a selection. I had it minimized as a compact module and nothing would show up. After opening it fully it worked. 

I'm using Lexington.  I'll look into this more deeply. In the meantime I would send a problem report to CW. It does work but not as it should. Your last post is not that different from what I found. 

I think I am losing my mind.
The more I try reproduce the issue, the more stable it becomes.
 
I am now at the point where if I start a fresh project and add some MIDI notes, the Event Inspector will display and allow editing in ALL of its guises: Mouse-Hover-Popup, Permanent-Small or Permanent-Large.
 
Not only that, it is working regardless of whether I click on a note in the PRV view window or in the Track itself.
And yet when I started chasing this bug, the Event Inspector would at first not even display any values at all when I clicked on a MIDI note in the PRV view window. After some time, I was able to click in the Event Inspector (still blank, it displayed no values at all) yet when I clicked on a field, it opened the Edit box with the +/- spin buttons, and not only could I edit, but the value it contained was that of the selected MIDI note! - and the other fields were still blank!
 
It is as if there are some variables that were uninitialized when Platinum got installed, then as you mess around, these get set (and, perversely, saved when you close Sonar) until, as seems to now be the case, it works as expected every time.
 
@John: I will file a bug report.
Thank goodness you had similar effects, I was beginning to doubt my sanity.

Just tried to reproduce this for you Jpetersen unfortunately I was not able to reproduce.  Here is the recipe I used.
 
1. Start SONAR Lexington
2. Click new project from start Screen. (i.e. use default template)
3. Insert dim Pro select EP patch
4. Add three bars of notes, all 1/4 notes of velocity 100.
5. Select a single note by lasso method.
6. In event inspector click on event velocity, type a new value of 85.
7. Open Event list and check note velocity has changed. Note had changed to new velocity of 85 as set in Event inspector.
 
I repeated step 6 to change the Velocity to 110 using the +/- gadgets I also changed note lengths in the same manner. 

I did the honors.
[CWBRN-43285]

Excellent! I think you have already hit an inconsistency.
 
My EI is set to Large, too.
 
I have just created a fresh blank project, added one single midi track, opened the PRV view (Alt+3), added one single note with the smart tool, changed to select tool, and...
 
I can edit the note's values with the Select tool.
 
I switch back to Smart tool, and...
I can edit the note's values with the Smart tool, too.
 
But remember, John was able to edit in Large mode, but NOT in Hover-Popup (Flyout) mode.
Yet when I tried it, both modes worked. As do the other editable tools on the bar. Only E.I. is so far behaving inconsistently in this respect.

Same project, messing around. Now I have the same that you had.
 
"Select" tool is active:
If I click on a note (I have 2 notes now) then the value is displayed in the E.I.
If I click in the E.I. with the Select tool active, I cannot edit.
 
BUT:
If I LASSO a single note with the "Select" tool, THEN I can go to the E.I. and edit the value!
 
A closer look has revealed that the Select tool is somehow selecting the note for the E.I. but not activating the note. In other words, it stays light blue (in my case now), and if I lasso it, it goes dark blue.

After a closer look I see the values being displayed in the E.I. are those of the first note, not those of the note I highlighted with the lasso.
 
If I lasso the second note, click on "Time" in the E.I. and hit enter, the second note jumps to the start position of the first note.
 
In other words, the values shown are not those of the highlighted note. But if you edit a value, the resulti is given to the highlighted note (even if you just hit Enter).

jpetersen
If I click in the E.I. with the Select tool active, I cannot edit.
 
BUT:
If I LASSO a single note with the "Select" tool, THEN I can go to the E.I. and edit the value!
 
A closer look has revealed that the Select tool is somehow selecting the note for the E.I. but not activating the note. In other words, it stays light blue (in my case now), and if I lasso it, it goes dark blue.

This is the only problem that I can replicate - the failure of the Select Tool to select notes in the PRV on left-click. I believe this came up a while back, well before Lexington.
 
So long as notes are successfully selected, the Event inspector is working consistently for me.

I finally got another reproducible example, using only the Smart tool.
 
1) Put the Event Inspector window in "Collapsed" mode.
2) Restart Sonar.
3) Create a fresh project with File>New>Blank Template, call it Temp1.
4) Insert a MIDI track and open the PRV window (Alt+3).
5) Create two notes with the Smart Tool. Ensure they are different notes and both start some beats into the song.
6) Select any note with the Smart Tool.
7) Hover over the "Events" tab. The Event Inspector flies out.
8) Click on "Time". It displays "0". This is definitely NOT the start time of the selected note.
9) Click on "Duration".
 
The note has moved to the beginning of the song.

jpetersen
I finally got another reproducible example, using only the Smart tool.
 
1) Put the Event Inspector window in "Collapsed" mode.
2) Restart Sonar.
3) Create a fresh project with File>New>Blank Template, call it Temp1.
4) Insert a MIDI track and open the PRV window (Alt+3).
5) Create two notes with the Smart Tool. Ensure they are different notes and both start some beats into the song.
6) Select any note with the Smart Tool.
7) Hover over the "Events" tab. The Event Inspector flies out.
8) Click on "Time". It displays "0". This is definitely NOT the start time of the selected note.
9) Click on "Duration".
 
The note has moved to the beginning of the song.

I can reproduce this. The reason I couldn't reproduce before is it seems this won't happen if the Event Inspector is not collapsed. As far as I can tell it works as expected if small or large. Once I did what you said and started with it collapsed, I could reproduce.
 
Make sure you send the recipe to Cakewalk.

Anderton

jpetersen
I finally got another reproducible example, using only the Smart tool.
 
1) Put the Event Inspector window in "Collapsed" mode.
2) Restart Sonar.
3) Create a fresh project with File>New>Blank Template, call it Temp1.
4) Insert a MIDI track and open the PRV window (Alt+3).
5) Create two notes with the Smart Tool. Ensure they are different notes and both start some beats into the song.
6) Select any note with the Smart Tool.
7) Hover over the "Events" tab. The Event Inspector flies out.
8) Click on "Time". It displays "0". This is definitely NOT the start time of the selected note.
9) Click on "Duration".
 
The note has moved to the beginning of the song.

I can reproduce this. The reason I couldn't reproduce before is it seems this won't happen if the Event Inspector is not collapsed. As far as I can tell it works as expected if small or large. Once I did what you said and started with it collapsed, I could reproduce.
 
Make sure you send the recipe to Cakewalk.

Yes, I can reproduce this as well. It only happens when the E.I. is collapsed.
After highlighting a note(s), if I hover over the E.I. it displays in the usual dark grey, but as soon as I move the cursor inside the boundaries of the E.I., the E.I. becomes a lighter shade of grey and nothing is selectable.

Ignore my last post, single clicking works as well although I'm not sure it was earlier..... 
 

Let me try sum all that up:
 
1) With the E.I. visible (Large or Small), then:
A) with the SELECT tool,
i) clicking on a note will send the value to the E.I.
ii) but will NOT highlight the note so that
iii) clicking in the E.I. DOES NOT allow editing. 
 
B) With the SMART tool,
i) clicking on a note will send the value to the E.I.
ii) and the note WILL be highlighted so that 
iii) clicking in the E.I. DOES allow editing.
iv) With any of the SELECT, MOVE, EDIT, DRAW or ERASE tools active you can edit a previously highlighted note, too.
 
2) With the E.I. collapsed, then:
A) with the SELECT tool,
i) clicking on a note will NOT send the value to the E.I.
ii) will as before NOT highlight the note so that
iii) clicking in the E.I. DOES NOT allow editing. 
iv) If the user has not done anything yet, it is quite likely that the E.I. will be blank.
 
B) With the SMART tool,
i) clicking on a note will also NOT send the value to the E.I.
ii) the note WILL however be highlighted so that 
iii) flying out the E.I. DOES allow editing with any of the tools active, BUT 
iv) the values will NOT have been updated, so  that merely clicking inside, then clicking away will cause the highlighted note to take on the value of whatever value was present. This causes unexpected effects, typically the note jumping somewhere.
 
Essentially, the issues are:
I) The E.I. will not update in collapsed mode, and
IIa) in Lexington ONLY the Smart tool can highlight a note, whereas
IIb) in X3 both the Smart AND the Select tool can highlight a note.
 
And in Sonar 8.5.3, the Move tool can highlight a note, too (press Alt with any tool active = Move).
This I find time-saving because you then immediately see edited values in the E.I as you change
them and you can go over and tweak them in the E.I. without changing tools.
 
It might be worth a feature-request that ANY tool can select and highlight a note (well, Edit and Move would make sense).
 
I found it amusing that, if I lasso a note with the Delete tool, the values jump into the E.I. but the note is deleted!