Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved

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2014/10/18 12:10:49 (permalink)

Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved

In SONAR X3e Eventide UltraReverb VST settings (example, wet/dry mix) revert to preset defaults once the PLAY button is pushed. Before PLAY the sliders are as saved. Hit PLAY and they snap to default position. 
There was similar problem with Waves Vitamin in X3a that was fixed when I installed X3e.
Snap back to defaults makes UltraReverb pretty much unusable.
Anyone else seeing this problem? Know of a fix?
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    scook
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    Re: Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved 2014/10/18 12:38:50 (permalink)
    I cannot replicate the problem. The wet/dry mix slider stays where I set it. I tested the plug-in in the FX bin of an audio track.
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    Re: Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved 2014/10/18 13:09:49 (permalink)
    Well. I just tried the following sequence again and can reproduce the problem.

    1. Plugin instance in audio track. Load a preset. Default wet/dry = 50%. 
    2. Wet/dry set to 10%. Close plugin. Reopen to verify wet/dry is still at 10%.
    3. Project Saved
    4. Project reopened and plugin opened. Verify wet/dry is as saved at 10%.
    5. Hit PLAY. Wet/dry slider jumps to 50%
     
    I'm at X3e x64 build 244 on Window 8.1 64bit.
    Plugin is Eventide UltraReverb as a VST2.
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    Re: Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved 2014/10/18 13:20:48 (permalink)
    I still cannot reproduce. I am using 64bit X3 Producer (X3e build 352) on Win7. You may want to submit the issue to support. There may be some subtle difference between the basic version of X3 and Producer.
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    Re: Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved 2014/10/18 13:22:19 (permalink)
    Does it matter whether you start playback from the beginning or in the middle of the project?
    Actually, I don't think this is the situation in your case, but anyway:
    IIRC, I've experinced something similar a few times in the past. I  assume I had accidentally (somehow, it remains a mystery to me) inserted an envelope or the plugin in question could somehow link the settings to the Now Time position when the setting was made. Playing back the project from the beginning gave false settings, but the right ones jumped on somewhere later in the project.

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    Re: Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved 2014/10/18 17:54:18 (permalink)
    hi mironta, I cant replicate either. 
     
    I used X3e basic, build 244 , 64 bit, win 8.1 and ultrareverb vst2
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    Re: Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved 2014/10/18 18:32:59 (permalink)
    Any chance the Zero Controllers setting in MIDI preferences could be affecting this?
     

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    Re: Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved 2014/10/19 17:21:16 (permalink)
    SteveC: 
    Any chance the Zero Controllers setting in MIDI preferences could be affecting this?
     
    I don't see a "Zero Controllers" setting in Edit:Preferences:MIDI
     
    Problem has been submitted to SONAR TS
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    Re: Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved 2014/10/20 13:56:26 (permalink)
    I don't know this would affect UltraReverb, but just in case you do need it some day....
     
    http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X2&language=3&help=Playback.33.html
     
     

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    Re: Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved 2014/10/20 15:47:05 (permalink)
    Is the Ultraverb on the latest version?  https://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Support/Plug-ins/Native%20Plug-in%20Support.aspx
     
    Looks like it is on version 2.0.4 now.
     
    I believe there were issues in previous versions.

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    Re: Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved 2014/10/22 09:34:36 (permalink)
    The Zero Controllers check box is a 'project-level' option, and can be found in Preferences>Project>Midi, then look under Other Options
     
    Here is the link to the X3 doc on those options:
     
    http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X3&language=3&help=0x200D7
     
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    Re: Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved 2014/10/22 16:37:11 (permalink)
    It looks like the UltraReverb jump to defaults problem is related to which version of SONAR a project was created under. The problem consistently shows up in projects that were created in X3a but is not present is a project created under X3e. I had recently upgraded to "e." Most of my projects were created under "a" or previous versions of SONAR.
    Starting with a new "e" project things work as expected. Still a pain for projects stared in "a" but at least there is possible work around and UltraReverb is usable for new projects.
    Thanks to all who responded.
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    Re: Eventide UltraReverb VST slider positions not saved 2014/10/22 22:08:23 (permalink)
    I had this same issue happen to me, but only once, and only on one instance of UltraReverb among many that were being used in the project. It was very strange. If I remember correctly, the settings would be saved, but the Dry/Wet slider would revert to default (100% wet) only after hitting the loop point. So, I would be listening to the last few seconds of a track that I composed to loop seamlessly, and I'd have to keep readjusting the dry/wet setting every time it looped back to the beginning of the track. Again, only on the one instance of UltraReverb (it was on an acoustic guitar). Very annoying. I think what I ended up doing is taking a screenshot of the settings I had it on, deleting that instance, reloading a new one, and just redoing the settings I had it on. 

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