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2015/07/23 18:16:46 (permalink)

Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) Now with Spoilers.

It's an excellent trippy little movie. I guess I should give a nudity warning, because it has head to toe nudity. I could have done without that myself, not that I was offended...I just find it to be a little lazy and unnecessary. Very, very cool idea for a movie. I'm still thinking about it a week later. That doesn't happen often anymore. I give it a 8 out of 10. Here's the trailer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bggUmgeMCdc
 
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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/07/23 23:15:30 (permalink)
No one? Go rent it!

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/07/24 03:30:19 (permalink)
I really enjoyed it tool, I watched shortly after watching Chappie, which added to my mindset at the time.
 
Regards the nudity, my comments are in white font below, a little spoilerish. Scroll over to read 
 
Thought the nudity was valid my self and not overdone, making a statement about the objects they were to him, and about his own perversions that became magnified by his solitude.  

 
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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/07/24 04:01:54 (permalink)
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I really enjoyed it tool, 
 



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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/07/24 04:48:00 (permalink)
I found it disappointing. I hoped the ending had been completely different. A kind of happy ending. 6/10.

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/07/24 10:37:29 (permalink)
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I really enjoyed it tool, I watched shortly after watching Chappie, which added to my mindset at the time.
 
Regards the nudity, my comments are in white font below, a little spoilerish. Scroll over to read 
 
Thought the nudity was valid my self and not overdone, making a statement about the objects they were to him, and about his own perversions that became magnified by his solitude.  


I agree. I do think that was the message he was intending.

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/07/24 10:38:18 (permalink)
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I found it disappointing. I hoped the ending had been completely different. A kind of happy ending. 6/10.

I love the ending...I have a lot to say about it, but don't want to spoil anything.

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/07/24 11:49:36 (permalink)
What's wrong with nuttity?
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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/07/24 11:49:59 (permalink)
The FSF is filled with full frontal nuttity.
 
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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/07/25 08:42:07 (permalink)
Watched it last night. It engaged me from the start. It is a slow moving and very quiet movie though which at times bored me a little. But nonetheless it is a captivating movie. This movie does make you think about it afterwards. The dance scene cracked me up. Disco get down! I am still trying to figure why that ending though, unless it was intentional for the shock value that is popular in today's movies. The other obvious ending might have been too 'nice'.

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/07/25 08:46:58 (permalink)
Remember when she was asking him questions and telling him if he was lying or not? I believe that was important to how this movie ended.

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/07/25 11:21:47 (permalink)
Hi,
 
I'll try to catch this tonite, as I am off tomorrow and Monday.

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/07/25 12:58:43 (permalink)
Pedro (finally) declares he's off. Heh heh.
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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/02 02:49:53 (permalink)
I bought Ex Machina yesterday. £15 from asda, which is basically full whack for a bluray.
 
I basically go and buy any AI shizzle and have been a fan of this genre since the almighty Bladerunner.
 
Ex Machina did not disappoint. For a so called "low budget" movie, I thought that the portrayal of Ava was effing fantastic.
 
Besides that, I thought the story was good, and the acting, and hence direction was good too. With just three main characters and a couple of support peeps, this movie kept me hooked to the end.
 
Simply a good, if not fantastic movie...

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/02 09:31:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Shambler 2015/08/03 13:31:05
It's the best Sci Fi movie I've seen in several years.

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/02 15:55:44 (permalink)
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It's the best Sci Fi movie I've seen in several years.




Yeah, it was definitely up there 
 
What about Interstellar?
 
It's a long drawn out film, but on the whole, I enjoyed it 
 
Mad Max: Fury Road was most enjoyable (so long as you like a two hour long car chase...)
 
I also recently enjoyed Predestination too... An excellent movie IMO...

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/02 16:57:54 (permalink)
I own Interstellar and love it. Predestination I'll have to look into.
Watched the trailer for Predestination...looks good.

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/03 02:46:36 (permalink)
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Watched the trailer for Predestination...looks good.



Yeah... A simple film, with a few clever twists and turns...

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/03 03:10:01 (permalink)
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It's an excellent trippy little movie. I guess I should give a nudity warning, because it has head to toe nudity. I could have done without that myself, not that I was offended...I just find it to be a little lazy and unnecessary. Very, very cool idea for a movie. I'm still thinking about it a week later. That doesn't happen often anymore. I give it a 8 out of 10. Here's the trailer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bggUmgeMCdc
 


the nudity is nothing- robot nudity, like mannequins or barbie dolls-
you have to watch it twice
 
spoiler alert
notice how from the start she used her robot sexuality to solve the maze ?
it made me reassess my opinion on the possibility of ai as virtually nil
 
 
 
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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/03 08:11:46 (permalink)
The nudity didn't bother me, the warning was a courtesy to others with children.
 
The movie was excellent.

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/03 13:32:51 (permalink)
Really loved Ex machine, we were talking about it for ages afterwards.
 

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/03 13:47:01 (permalink)
My wife and I have been watching Humans, which is an AI based TV series. The acting and effects is not going to blow you away, but it's worth a watch, IMO.
 
Another AI movie that I enjoyed, even though it gets a poor rating on IMDB, is The Machine.
 
I also purchased and watched Automata, with Antonio Banderos (average). I sort of enjoyed it, but was hoping for more action. Again, poor rating on IMDB...
 
 

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/03 21:54:28 (permalink)
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Regards the nudity, a little spoilerish.
 
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I'm not a great fan of the way that nudity is shown, in many films, specially made in America. It's a combination of fold-out and keyhole peep'ery, just like the early movie machines ... you put in your quarter and see something for a few seconds.
 
In general, there are films where the nudity is just a natural part of the whole thing and it is easy to watch, and you don't even think about the nudity, and that makes for a better film, for me. American films, in general, are horrible about nudity and I think a lot of it has to do with the TV crowd and militia, that want to corner the morality in this country. I honestly think that many of these film makers are scared of doing anything that does not look like Playboy magazine a few decades back ... and the camera shots making sure that they are brief, because you are too shy or self-conscious to really look at it!
 
I have watched what appears to be over 20 minutes of bits and pieces from that film, and will eventually watch it, but ... it was too much "movie" for me, and leaning towards the fantasy side of things that it actually becomes a turn off! Porno, at least is better than peep'ery!

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/05 18:37:37 (permalink)
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I found it disappointing. I hoped the ending had been completely different. A kind of happy ending. 6/10.



IMO I thought the ending was a brilliant... wrapped up the movie quite nicely - even if it was a little dark.
This is one movie that needs more than one watch to catch all of the details...
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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/06 08:23:39 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby LaszloZoltan 2015/08/06 13:10:38
I would recommend reading Ray Kurzweil's (nonfiction) book "The Singularity is Near". Not that it addresses the Turing question directly, but rather because it explores the ramifications of blurring the human-machine distinction. It convincingly makes the case that this merge is really coming, and much sooner than you think.


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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/06 09:04:35 (permalink)
Hi,
 
it won't be in our lifetime Bit, I don't think.
 
But it will be at that time, that people will be replaced, and then told they can not reproduce and 1984 is in full force, if not Animal Farm. With some puti______ in charge of course! Or one of those that say they talk to God in the east, and that we're heathens because we don't!
 
Hard to not be cynical about that topic, but yeah ... I'm pretty sure it will come. It will change the face of porn, hey?
 Can you imagine? All that anime from Japan, apparently now being almost real?
 
Some other changes for the future I expect ... literature and film will become the same thing as the viable story telling medium. The problem is that for 100 years no one will consider "Lawrence of Arabia" by David Lean ... a "novel" ... and that means that the terminology will change. You don't need to "see it" to "read it", or vice versa. Both will be the same ... and in some ways, it is possible that the experience will be better, but in the end, the harder and harsher material will fall out, I bet! This means a Marquis de Sade would have no value whatsoever for most folks and would be ignored, as an example! Not to mention many others. Can you imagine Baudelaire and Jean Genet? That ought to be fun ... "Our Lady of Flowers" as a visual ... dang ... most of us will run out of here so fast, screaming!
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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/07 14:49:03 (permalink)
One thought I had about AI after seeing Ex Machina was if you create an AI which does not include emotions then it will not be urged to communicate at all...it would just sit there having no reason to communicate since it would have no needs.

But if you create an AI with emotions it may go the way of madness if it is confined and definitely would try to escape.

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/07 14:52:40 (permalink)
What I thought about, at the end of the movie was, where is she going to charge her batteries? There was no mention of photovoltaic cells or anything...

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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/07 16:33:21 (permalink)
I figure she is smart enough to make a charger, but I can see where she may have a need to return in the future. She may need a new arm or something.
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Re: Ex Machina (anyone seen this movie?) 2015/08/08 00:56:04 (permalink)
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I figure she is smart enough to make a charger, but I can she where she may have a need to return in the future. She may need a new arm or something.



well, if the simple task was "find a way out of the maze" (as it was suggested) - then the robot achieved just that, afterwards is irrelevant 
 
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