Expanded Pro Channel Seems to Get Stuck...

Just upgraded to the Expanded version of X1 ( without the Gate ) and while we are liking the new features in Expanded, it seem that the Pro Channel gets 'stuck' from time to time.
 
When you adjust a parameter inside of the Pro Channel ( EQ, Comp, Ect..) the graphic display is non responsive and there is no difference in the sound output. The EQ plot does not change when you are adjusting any of the knobs rather the  -LF-LFM-HMF-HF- buttons are selected or not. However, when you click on the comp section power button a couple of times ( cycling through on/off ) the EQ finally jumps into to being active. Also noticed that if you cycle through the Global on/off state enough times, each of the individual Pro Channel sections will eventually respond.
 
Its almost as if there is a 'loose connection' inside of Pro Channel itself.
This "feature' was not present in the previous un-expanded version of X1 so was curious to see if anyone else is experiencing this??
 
Its ironic that millions of dollars of R&D and years of coding later and we have finally been able to accurately model and aging analog mixer! Now thats progress. :-)
 

Aside from the reports of similar issues others have had with Pro Channel, there is also a "global" on/off button on top -- and I've noticed that in some cases it's ON and other times it's OFF - for no rhyme or reason.

But, once I turn it ON it seems to remember.  So perhaps something similar is happening for you with the global widget.

Hi Steven,

Sorry to hear of the trouble. I'll bring it to the attention of QA and support in the AM in hopes that they either know what's going on or can reproduce the problem.

Featherlight


Codamedia,
Have done a search for the problem you mentioned but Sonar search cant seem to find anything pertinent, you would'nt by chance have a link??

Here are a couple links, but please don't limit your reading to just these.

• http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?&m=2361643
• http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2203936

If you just do a generic search for "Pro Channel", every 3rd or 4th thread will be about problems related to Pro Channel, and it's inconsistency. Not every one is seeing the same problems, and not every one will describe the problem in the same way you did (with the same key words) so it is difficult to do an exact search.
 
It is a frustrating problem (and/or several underlying problems) that I'm sure everyone would like to find a fix for.

I've noticed the global button with its own mind, plus the lp, hp, etc buttons at the bottom of the eq seem to have their own agenda about being on or off, at least on my system.

brundlefly


Not to deny the possibility that there might still be problems with this, but I have to wonder if at least some of the impression that Prochannel buttons are mysteriously changing state arises from mistakenly moving a PC control with focus on the wrong track, and then neglecting to disable that module that is automatically enabled the first time you touch it. Or maybe even making adjustments on the wrong track, and then being on the right track later, and wondering why the module is disabled.

This would explain why problems are so hard to reproduce - users pay a lot closer attention to what they're doing with which modules on which track when they're trying to reproduce a problem, and don't get any surprises as a result.

I only mention it because I often find myself starting to adjust a Prochannel parameter with focus on the wrong track/or bus, and then wondering later on why a module is enabled on a track where it was not intended before realizing I did it myself. 

EDIT: Maybe the Devs should do away with the auto-enable functionality, or at least make it optional.

Hey Brundlefly,

I couldn't agree more about that "Auto Enable" feature - it's bound to cause problems for at least some people.

I can see how the devs could think it's a cool thing, but I see it as a dangerous feature if there's no option to disable it.
It is a cool idea, but I don't think it's practical at all - there's a button there to turn on/off, takes a jiffy to click on it, and you
know when you've done that.

And that's the bit I have trouble understanding, is why you would introduce such a feature without the option to disable it.

I don't like things "Auto-Enabling" on me at all, personally I think it's a very bad idea, especially for something like the prochannel
console strips.

It's just too easy to accidentally click on something, especially when you're working on big projects with large track counts.
If the option was there, I would permanently disable the "Auto-Enable" feature of pro-channel modules.


In fact, when I get home tonight, I am going to log a feature request to include the option to disable "Auto-Enable" of pro-channel modules.

I have my doubts that the feature request will be entertained by Cake, but you never know.
Maybe if a lot of people put in feature requests for "The option to disable auto-enable of pro-channel modules", it might just happen.


Cheers - Cliff