Export Audio to wav Battery3 causes fatal error

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2010/09/02 06:41:08 (permalink)

Export Audio to wav Battery3 causes fatal error

I have this little project I've been working on for the band's next album.
It's a nice little 6/8 instrumental about 3:40 long.
I needed to make the drums more realistic.
I liked the dynamic possibilities of the Battery3 Multi-mic kit and swapped the kit I had ( a home made kit using our drummers samples but not multisampled - when I feel rich I'll book studio time to sample his kit properly) and I got to work.
4 hours of editing later, velocity, timing, ghost snares etc I felt ready to distribute the mixdown to my colleagues for criticism.
The project would play perfectly end to end with no glitches but when I came to export to a 16bit 44.1kHz wav the project would tell me that Battery3 had caused a fatal error and Sonar would have to close.
It happened 3 times (with a reboot between each attempt) always happened when the bar denoting export progress reached 1:15 into the song.
I can find nothing of note occuring @ 1:15.
I have not rendered any of the tracks to audio (and generally do not) so have not tried getting round that issue that way.
I always only render audio at final mixdown so am bemused as to what's going on here.
This project i 98% MIDI and soft synths - there is a 2second (at most) vocal track (just a girly giggle).
 
I am running Sonar7 Producer on XPPro 32 in ASIO mode through an RME HDSP9632 PCI with I/O buffer of 512
I have Battery3 3.0.4 with the factory Battery2 Multi Mic kit. - I am highlighting the Battery section as the error reports Battery as the culprit.
I have 4 midi tracks (Kick/Snare/Hat/Cymbal) driving the Battery3.
Within Battery3 the kick and the snare have some comp and eq and all drums have some velocity and timing variation in the humanise section
kick outputs to 3/4stereo to its own audio track
snare outputs to 5/6stereo to its own audio track
hat outputs to 7/8stereo to its own audio track
cymbal outputs to 9/10stereo to its own audio track
Each drum audio track has a Sonitus EQ on the output
Each drum audio is routed to the Drum bus.
The drum bus has a send to a reverb bus (pre fader - perfect space) and has a VC64 with some mild compression on the output to the Master
 
My export audio process is SelectAll/Export to Audio select bit depth 16bit sample rate 44100Hz to wav format - all boxes on lower right of export dialogue are checked apart from 64bit mix engine
 
I am at a loss.
 
i have never suffered a problem like this before
i hope I've given complete enough info for someone to diagnose my problem.
I am not at my DAW right now (dayjob:() so will not be able to test solutions (if any) for a while but will be mightily impressed by whoever manages to solve my problem.
 
Please
 
Edit: A litle more info:
Task Manager reports RAM usage at 2.02GB (32bit XP)
Sonar CPU meters @ around 30% across all 4 cores (core 3 seems a little higher)
Sonar disk usage = 0%
 
 
Detail of the hardware:
Asus P5QL-E P43 motherboard
Q9550 @ stock freq
Noctua CPU cooler and fans
8Gb (4 x 2GB) Corsair Dominator DDR2 8500 RAM @1066MHz
Dominator Airflow RAM cooler
4 x Samsung 1TB F3 7200rpm SATA HDD (no RAID (eeek!!)
Palit 9800GT 512Mb PCI-e graphics
RME HDSP9632 PCI audio card (for Sonar)
m-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI audio card (for everything else)
Tagan TG700-BZ PSU - dig those lights!!
On board sound disabled in device manager
 
post edited by Twigman - 2010/09/02 08:57:35

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    Karyn
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    Re:Export Audio to wav Battery3 causes fatal error 2010/09/02 06:49:52 (permalink)
    My personal guess would be that you're running out of memory and Battery is crashing as a result.

    Try bouncing down some of the synths to audio,  or even the Battery tracks to audio before doing the final render.

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    Re:Export Audio to wav Battery3 causes fatal error 2010/09/02 06:54:05 (permalink)
    Karyn


    My personal guess would be that you're running out of memory and Battery is crashing as a result.

    Try bouncing down some of the synths to audio,  or even the Battery tracks to audio before doing the final render.


    According to Task Manager I am using 2.02Gb of an installed 8Gb but of course XP32 can only 'see' 4GB of this - or is it 3Gb?
    post edited by Twigman - 2010/09/02 07:16:45

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    Re:Export Audio to wav Battery3 causes fatal error 2010/09/02 07:29:33 (permalink)
    Mmmm,  and you also said you're using 32bit XP, so it is still likely that it's a memory allocation problem, (failing any bug in Battery I don't know about).

    My first option would be to bounce the Battery tracks to audio, if it still fails then I can't help.   It won't hurt to try.

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    Re:Export Audio to wav Battery3 causes fatal error 2010/09/02 07:32:38 (permalink)
    It's 3Gb unless you're using that util that gives you access to 4Gb

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    Re:Export Audio to wav Battery3 causes fatal error 2010/09/02 07:34:22 (permalink)
    Karyn


    My first option would be to bounce the Battery tracks to audio, if it still fails then I can't help.   It won't hurt to try.


    That is what I will try first when i get home....but as this really is still a WIP it's not ideal.....maybe I should try to migrate the project to my 64bit partition now that I replaced the Reason instruments I was using with DimProLE samples?

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    Re:Export Audio to wav Battery3 causes fatal error 2010/09/02 07:47:56 (permalink)
    Do you need to migrate?  Can't you just boot up in 64bit mode and then just open the project as normal?

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    Re:Export Audio to wav Battery3 causes fatal error 2010/09/02 17:15:07 (permalink)
    OK I think I sorted it but still don't know the true cause.

    On inspection it seems I was using Battery 3.0.4 DXI.
    I updated Battery to 3.1.1 but bizarrely the DXI version didn't update.
    I swapped out the DXI 3.0.4 in my project and put in the VSTi 3.1.1 and BINGO everything works as it should.

    I have removed the DXI version in the PlugIn Manager so that I don't make the same mistake again.

    :)


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    Re:Export Audio to wav Battery3 causes fatal error 2010/09/02 18:41:46 (permalink)
    There isn't a DXi version for 3.1.1; DXi support was dropped with the 3.0.5/3.0.6 update. None of the current versions of NI plugins have a DXi variant.

    As to why you were crashing- mismatched versions. The plugin refers to the standalone, and a mismatch will either result in:
    1) the plugin not loading at all, or
    2) a crash upon saving, rendering or exiting.

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    Re:Export Audio to wav Battery3 causes fatal error 2010/09/02 19:33:22 (permalink)
    ew


    There isn't a DXi version for 3.1.1; DXi support was dropped with the 3.0.5/3.0.6 update. None of the current versions of NI plugins have a DXi variant.

    As to why you were crashing- mismatched versions. The plugin refers to the standalone, and a mismatch will either result in:
    1) the plugin not loading at all, or
    2) a crash upon saving, rendering or exiting.

    ew


    Thanks for the explanation...I think I'd worked most of that out by myself.

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