Export Audio with Tracks as Source Category does not render the entire path till final bus

 
As the subject says......
 
Now to explain better, its like this. I choose "Tracks" instead of "Entire Mix" so that I can output each audio track separately. Now this works fine and each track is output as a separate audio file. However, I realize that each track is output with just its own fx, track parameters, etc, rendered but not with the effects of the entire path till the final bus output. That is, each track could be routed to different buses with various fx and then to a final master bus which could have, say, a Boost 11 or an Adaptive Limiter. But I don't get the overall effect of all this in the output file of each separate track. 
 
To put it in a different way, I would get that overall effect on the track if I were to solo each audio track and render the solo-ed track as "Entire Mix" which covers everything in the signal path for that particular track till it gets output from the final master bus. 
Now one way to get this for each track would be to solo each track and render one by one as "Entire Mix" with "Track Mute/Solo" enabled under "Mix Enables". This is all good for a project with say 5, 6 or 10 tracks, maybe even 15.
But what if I wanted this done in a project with say, 50, 75 or 100 tracks ? It would be so tedious and I could be solo-ing and rendering tracks all day long or across days.
 
So, the question is : 
Is there a way to render all audio tracks as separate files in one go but as if each of the tracks were solo-ed and the entire signal path rendered for the solo-ed track till its effects upto the final master bus ?
Am I missing something which enables this to be done easily in Sonar ?
 
Please excuse if it all sounds confusing but I've tried to explain it as best as I can and do hope that most regular Sonar users can figure out what I am getting at. Thanks in advance. 

consider:
 
1-If you limit individual tracks and bring them back together they will undoubtedly clip the output badly, even if you can turn them back down to not clip.(now you have to re-mix the levels assuming the goal is the bring them back together eventually)
2-A track sent to an fx bus with other tracks can only sound the way it does because of all the interactions from the rest of the tracks going to that bus like the kick drum driving the compressor on the bus and the rest of the tracks following suit, think pumping effect. the rest of the tracks will not pump if you take the kick drum out.
3-I may be wrong but I think it's highly improbable that when you solo the tracks that you get the same effect as with them all together on the buss, but...I'm going to stop here because you may know exactly what you want and Sonar can not do that.  You may actually not be intending to bring these tracks back together.  Are we on the same page?
 

chuckebaby
 
Sorry I might be misunderstanding your question but, Have you tried checking Bus FX in the export options ?
https://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR%20X3&language=3&help=Dialogs1.45.html
 

 
All the options are always checked when I export the audio. The case in point that I am particularly referring to is when I choose "Tracks" under "Source Category". 
 
To illustrate it better, here's a screenshot of my Export Audio options : 
 
 

 
 
As you can see, the five audio tracks A,B,C,D and E are all routed to the "Master" bus which is the final output bus.
I want to export each of the five tracks separately which is what I have opted for in the Export Audio options.
But when I export them, each of the tracks do not have the effect of the 6dB boost on the Boost11 limiter that is placed on the Master bus. They only get rendered based on the parameters on the respective tracks.
 
I wish to export them with the effects on all the buses till the final output bus as though I were exporting each track solo-ed with the "Entire Mix" option under Source Category.
I know I could do this one by one. But is it possible to do this at one go for all the tracks ?
 
 

frankjcc
consider:
 
1-If you limit individual tracks and bring them back together they will undoubtedly clip the output badly, even if you can turn them back down to not clip.(now you have to re-mix the levels assuming the goal is the bring them back together eventually)
2-A track sent to an fx bus with other tracks can only sound the way it does because of all the interactions from the rest of the tracks going to that bus like the kick drum driving the compressor on the bus and the rest of the tracks following suit, think pumping effect. the rest of the tracks will not pump if you take the kick drum out.
3-I may be wrong but I think it's highly improbable that when you solo the tracks that you get the same effect as with them all together on the buss, but...I'm going to stop here because you may know exactly what you want and Sonar can not do that.  You may actually not be intending to bring these tracks back together.  Are we on the same page?
 

I pretty much understand and concur with all that you are saying. Sure effects like pumping cannot work if tracks are solo-ed as most of the time they are achieved by side-chaining through sends.
 
Which is why you are spot on with your last line and we sure are on the same page there. I most likely may not be intending to bring the tracks back together, at least not exactly in the same way. That is not what I am looking to achieve here. What I am looking for is to have each of the individual tracks rendered as if they individually go through the entire signal path right upto the final output bus with all the effects mixed in on their respective paths.
 

Cactus Music
As usual with a issue like this it's because someone is trying to do something nobody else every wanted to do.
And for good reason. 
I cannot even think of why anyone would be even wanting to export all individual tracks and include buss effects? 
Generally the only reason we export individual tracks is so we can move them to another DAW for mixing etc.
Or use the track in another song..but 50 tracks? 
And the only reason we move to another DAW is normally because someone has a better set up than us. 
Therefore better effects and whatnot. The last thing those people want is effects printed to tape. They want RAW stems. 
Or you have a buddy and you want them to add some tracks and they use another DAW. 
In that case we give them a submix of the project. 
So could you please explain what it is your wanting to do and then maybe someone might have a solution. 
 

I very much concur with what you are saying. But that is if one is looking to achieve what you describe here.
 
But what if merely exporting raw tracks to send to other mixing houses is not what you want to achieve ?
 
As I explained, I am looking to get each track rendered the way I hear each track from the final output bus when I solo each of them. As simple as that. I know I can do this by solo-ing each track and exporting each individually with "Entire Mix" option one by one.
All I want to know is if that's the only way or is there a quicker way to achieve this in one go, that is, in one export.
 
 

How about this?

First, save all fx settings that are on the master bus as presets.

Then add a copy of the effects plugins to every track as the last processors in them. Then load the presets into their relevant plugins and configure all the tracks so their fx bins are “post fader”.

If the fx are pre-fader you get you the same results because the track fader’s position will be having an impact on what the stuff on the master bus is doing. So the fx need to be post-fader to duplicate that.

I can't think of a way to do this, but it occurs to me that if you want to "...have each track rendered individually as I hear it from the final output bus," it won't work and here's why: When you listen to your complete mix you are hearing each track as it interacts with other tracks which are assigned to the same bus. Once you export each track individually and out of that context, no interaction and it won't sound the same as it did when it was combined. Unless your buses contain no compressors, gates or side chaining. But if they don't, I'm not sure why you don't just build your mix from scratch with all the chorus, EQ, etc. you want on the tracks themselves. Then when you export individual tracks they should sound the same as when you solo them in the mix.