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2011/01/25 03:48:15 (permalink)

Export midi track to a .mid file?

Hi,
Does anyone know if it's possible to export a single midi track to a .mid file?  I have been scouring the manual and these forums but I can't seem to find the solution, if even possible.  

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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2011/01/25 03:55:51 (permalink)
I'm not at my daw and I'm not powering up right now. so dont hold me to it.

you should select your midi track info on the track view and choose export in the file menu. there's and option to choose midi1 or midi2  then export. I think it's that simple.


someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

man, it bother me to give out iffy info. i'm gonna power up the daw and try right now. ..please hold.


wrong
post edited by guitarmikeh - 2011/01/25 04:04:24

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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2011/01/25 04:03:41 (permalink)
well I was wrong
seems you have to save as then choose midi format 0, midi format 1, riff midi format 0. or finally riff midi format 1... not sure what the differences are.
sorry for the misinformation.
I have never exported midi before.

I just did the above. imported into new project and it worked.
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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2011/01/25 07:15:37 (permalink)
MIDI type 0 = all data stored in 1 track
MIDI type 1 = each MIDI channels data is stored in a separate track with drums usually on Channel 10. this is the preferred method of saving.


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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2011/01/25 09:18:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jmasno5 2017/06/29 14:54:25
If you have multiple clips in the track, first select the track and then choose Clips > Bounce To Clip(s) from the Track view menu (I'm assuming you're using X1, otherwise Bounce To Clip(s) is in the Edit menu.)

Then just drag and drop the MIDI clip to your Desktop or into a hard drive folder location in Windows Explorer.

SONAR automatically exports the clip to a MIDI file that way.

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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2011/01/26 00:22:02 (permalink)
Hmm no joy doing that.  I am using X1.  I select the track and indeed they are all highlighted across the single track.  I have about 5 lanes of midi clips, some looped, some step sequencer clips etc.  When I then select tracks/bounce to tracks, I get the error "the specified selection did not contain any audio data.  Please ensure that the selection contains the audio data you wish to bounce".  Well no, it's not audio I wish to bounce.  I could swear I've done this in the past before, bounced midi to a single track.  Is this a function that dropped with X1?  There are no equivalent items under the midi menu either.  File/export  midi groove clip is also disabled.  
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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2011/01/26 00:26:29 (permalink)
I guess you would  highlight the midi track before saving then?  Will it then save only midi?  I'll give it a shot.
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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2011/01/26 11:38:42 (permalink)
You can't bounce multiple MIDI tracks to one MIDI tracks. You can only do it on one track and use Bounce to Clip(s)... not Bounce to Track(s).

In your original post you said you were trying to export a single MIDI track.

Select the track, Bounce to Clip(s), drag and drop. That should do the trick...

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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2011/01/26 22:20:02 (permalink)
Yes I am indeed trying to export a single midi track.  When I select the track, and right-click, bounce to clips is greyed out, cannot select.  I've tried everything I can think of.

Anyway the other method posted here worked about 90%.  I saved the project as .mid.  A couple other tracks worth of info got included, and a couple  bars seem a bit out of whack but nothing I can't fix.

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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2011/01/26 22:36:31 (permalink)


Hi - 

It works for me; X1 producer. 

Here is a little viddy:

http://www.screencast.com/users/kahlilg/folders/Jing/media/9e8fb08d-6ed7-4b1a-aa3a-0635eb605e47



Remove silence!
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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2011/01/26 23:06:15 (permalink)
Well for whatever reason mine is definitely not working like that.  It's the same up to the point the right-click menu comes up.  Yours you can select, mine I cannot.  
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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2012/04/16 12:34:18 (permalink)
OK folks - I have another issue regarding MIDI Export: I have a drum performance on one MIDI track in SONAR X1. I need to mail this to a client, since they want to give input on a part between 2.50-3.10 ca. Now - I can't export only that part because then it will be difficult to have it lined up in their DAW. Therefore I've tried to erase all MIDI info before and after 2.50-3.10 so there will be a full MIDI track with large chunks of silence before/after and then events happening at above mentioned time. This seems to be impossible, since whatever I do, every export (save as) renders the full MIDI performance, which I DON't want. I have tried: -Erasing before and after, both in tracks view as well as in staff view. -Muting the clips before and after. And I save as MIDI 0 in my case. Bouncing to clip after erasing the clips before/after. No change whatsoever. I ALWAYS get the full performance no matter what I do. I just need a clip of 4.42 with silence everywhere except between 2.50-3.10. What do I do??
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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2012/04/16 13:55:32 (permalink)
Copy just the part/events you need onto another new midi track - you will have blank either side of it then. Drag the front end of the new clip back to the very start of the tune. Then place some random data on the first beat of that clip. This will mean who ever imports the clip into their DAW has the clip lined up at their/your start point. Then just drag the new clip onto your desk top. It should save MIDI 1.

I think that is how i did it [away from DAW at the moment.



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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2012/04/16 14:13:16 (permalink)
  Thank you kindly for input Garry. In theory that would work excellent yes. In practice, when I copy, either if its dragging the specific part to a MIDI-track below, or copying via Ctrl-C and pasting into the lane below the MIDI data before/after is still there when I drag out the handles. So still nothing. I'm extremely confused why I can't make this seemingly simple task work on one of the worlds leading DAW's.
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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2012/04/16 14:41:35 (permalink)
Yep i know it's a pain.
In the preferences, uncheck no[ne] destructive editing [it might be the other way around]
Or if that don't work, just delete the midi data you don't need in the PRV - that will work.
But still leave a note on beat one of bar one. [of course this is on your copied track]




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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2012/04/16 15:11:13 (permalink)
  Thanks for your time Garry. Tried both now actually. Unchecked nondestructive editing under MIDI in preferences (as it was on before) and exported. Still nothing. Everything is there as it should not be. Tried PRV - nothing. Did I mentioned I have tried to erase everything in staff view as well? Seems like this is a major flaw if it cannot be worked out. I should be able to save/export a midi file and have silence on both sides of my section, but apparently not. The stuff keeps getting in there despite my erasing over and over again in different ways.

 
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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2012/04/16 15:29:45 (permalink)
Have you tried deleting the data in the MIDI events data page ?


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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2012/04/16 16:53:48 (permalink)
The easiest way to export MIDI is to drag the MIDI-track to the desktop (according to what I'
ve read here on  the forum). I have no idea of how the format 0/1 is handled in that method.

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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2012/04/16 17:01:00 (permalink)
  Hyvää Iltää Kalle, Exporting MIDI is not the issue here. I have no problems whatsoever in exporting or saving MIDI to desktop - either dragging or using save as. My concern is that I cannot export a MIDI file that runs from beginning to end, excluding major parts of the performance and containing bits of it. I want the track to run 4.42 (which is the length of it). I want to remove all events except stuff between 2.50-3.10 ca so I have silence in both ends. Neither erasing, copy/paste to new track/project, muting, manually erasing in staff/track/event view has helped. I've given up. Hopefully it's something really simple, but as for now it does not look like it. I could of course export just that bit between 2.50-3.10 that I want, but then I don't get the silence, and thus missing the point of exporting the whole track. And if I exoport the whole track, all events tag along - cant get rid of them no matter what I do.

 
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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2012/04/16 17:47:20 (permalink)
Crazy mate - I hope you get it sorted.


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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2018/11/03 18:48:02 (permalink)
I also had this problem of exporting a part of an existing MIDi track by using drag and drop to a Windows folder - in my case, I normally get as result the whole MIDI track exported as a MIDI file, despite of initially selecting only a part of the MIDI track. I solve this by applying trimming before exporting (select the needed clip, doing Clips --> Apply Trimming, then exporting). This is to avoid the (otherwise nice Sonar feature of) slip - editing. 
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Re:Export midi track to a .mid file? 2018/11/03 19:11:31 (permalink)
This is a very old thread but some thigs don't change.
 
It's as simple as this: 
File 
"SAVE AS"
"MIDI 1" 
I do this a lot. Even a complicated muti track audio and midi project using 10 VST instruments and a zillion plug in effects will be saved. 
If you then open this file even in a different DAW all the fancy stuff and audio tracks will be gone but each midi track will be there and still maintain it's original channel. 
If you want the midi file to be GM compatible you will need to set the tracks up with their own channels etc. You would also need to use GM patch and Bank assignments. Best to open this file with TTS-1 as the only VST to check how it plays. 
 
If all you want is one track , say the drum track, then myself I do the same but I re-open the midi file in a new project and simply delete all the unwanted tracks, takes 2 seconds. 
 
Another way I would do this is make a back up copy of the original project and then delete all but the midi tracks I want saved and then "save as" MIDI 0 " this will take a bunch of drum tracks and clips and make it into one nice track. 

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