Export to MP3 Artifact Oddity with Presonus 192 and Melodyne

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Export to MP3 Artifact Oddity with Presonus 192 and Melodyne

So here is the situation. I have a Presonus 192 that I have been very displeased with for almost a year now. I had hoped through firmware and driver updates it would get better which it has somewhat but still not to where I need it to be. That being when I export my projects I have noticed a troublesome issue. When using projects with ARA Melodyne enabled on my vocal tracks in random spots develop an artifact of a vocal which will pop into the mix on the mix down. So in other words after the project has been mixed down to a MP3 and as I listen to the MP3 I will hear a split second of the voice in a random few spots of the song. When listening to the song through Sonar (the project not the MP3) there are no artifacts. Now Oddly enough if I switch to my Focusrite 6i6 interface the issue is resolved when listening to the MP3. I know it sounds to be the 192 as the issue but wondering if there is a work around.
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    dcumpian
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    Re: Export to MP3 Artifact Oddity with Presonus 192 and Melodyne 2017/02/23 14:08:16 (permalink)
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    Have you tried rendering the Melodyne sections before you do a mixdown? It's been generally accepted for a while now that once you've got Melodyne parts the way you want them, bounce them so they aren't rendered "on the fly" when you mixdown.
     
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    Re: Export to MP3 Artifact Oddity with Presonus 192 and Melodyne 2017/02/23 14:32:01 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the suggestion. I thought about it but like/need the flexibility of if I'm not pleased with an edit I can always go back and tweak it. By applying it it's locked in and as far as I know I can't go back unless I saved a different version of the project. I guess if need be once I get to that point where I'm in my final final mix down phase the vocals will be solid at that point.

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    OS:Genuine Windows 10 64 bit (Most current updates)
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    Graphic: NVIDIA GTX960 2GB DDR5 - Memory: DDR4 2133MHz 8G
    USB: 2X 3.1, 4X 3.0, 4X 2.0 - Storage: 1TB SATA hard drive (7200rpmRPM)(8GB SSD Hybrid)
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    PreSonus Studio 192 Firmware 1.6-39 - Driver  UC Surface v2.1.0.43180 for Windows
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    Re: Export to MP3 Artifact Oddity with Presonus 192 and Melodyne 2017/02/23 15:07:29 (permalink)
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    You could always copy and archive the original for further edits. 
     

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    Re: Export to MP3 Artifact Oddity with Presonus 192 and Melodyne 2017/02/23 15:16:15 (permalink)
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    +1 for Stevec !
    That's how I personnally do :
    I duplicate the track of my take and I mute one of them.
    Then I make a RegionFX out of the other one.
    When I'm done with my Melodyne Edits, I duplicate the track, I mute one and I render the other one.
    So I have three tracks instead of one, (two are muted but there in case) and I am safe.

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    Re: Export to MP3 Artifact Oddity with Presonus 192 and Melodyne 2017/02/23 15:32:36 (permalink)
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    stevec
    You could always copy and archive the original for further edits. 
     


    Great point, thank you. Ironically I got the 6i6 as a mobile alternative and now find myself relying on it more and more.



    Computer
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    OS:Genuine Windows 10 64 bit (Most current updates)
    CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-6700 - Chipset: Intel® H110
    Graphic: NVIDIA GTX960 2GB DDR5 - Memory: DDR4 2133MHz 8G
    USB: 2X 3.1, 4X 3.0, 4X 2.0 - Storage: 1TB SATA hard drive (7200rpmRPM)(8GB SSD Hybrid)
    Application(DAW): SONAR PLATINUM - Version (Most current update)
    Audio Interfaces
    PreSonus Studio 192 Firmware 1.6-39 - Driver  UC Surface v2.1.0.43180 for Windows
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    dcumpian
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    Re: Export to MP3 Artifact Oddity with Presonus 192 and Melodyne 2017/02/24 09:10:19 (permalink)
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    Mage_et_lent
    +1 for Stevec !
    That's how I personnally do :
    I duplicate the track of my take and I mute one of them.
    Then I make a RegionFX out of the other one.
    When I'm done with my Melodyne Edits, I duplicate the track, I mute one and I render the other one.
    So I have three tracks instead of one, (two are muted but there in case) and I am safe.




    I would suggest Archive rather than Mute. Mute keeps the track active during playback, in case you want to Unmute it while playing. Archive takes the track completely offline.
     
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    Re: Export to MP3 Artifact Oddity with Presonus 192 and Melodyne 2017/02/24 22:32:54 (permalink)
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    highlandermak
    stevec
    You could always copy and archive the original for further edits. 
     


    Great point, thank you. Ironically I got the 6i6 as a mobile alternative and now find myself relying on it more and more.






    Cool!
     
    I've been using an 18i6 for a few years now and have found myself a Focusrite fan. 
     

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    Focusrite 18i6 (ASIO);
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