Marc2109
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Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X3e
I have a tiny project which I exported to a 44.1 16bit file and then played it back through Windows 7 media player on the same monitors. The project had no eq or processing of any sort. The file played back through media player has a noticeably brighter tone than the original in Sonar X3. The file imported back into Sonar sounds the same as the original file. I have not enabled any type of eq on Media player (Not sure it even has one). Any ideas to account for this difference? Thanks for any help or suggestions.
post edited by Marc2109 - 2014/04/08 14:22:02
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/05 16:26:31
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☄ Helpfulby djoni 2014/04/05 18:28:37
Thats because its a future song!
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/05 16:29:16
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John
Thats because its a future song!
Good fix!! 😊😊😊
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/05 16:33:37
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Yes, SONAR X4 is more of a mellow, vintage sound. Just learn to appreaciate it. Visit www.gearslutz.com and learn why bright=noob and mellow=pro! Joke aside, are you sure you've matched the playback volume exactly? Louder (if only fractionally) will always sound brighter (and better)! P.S looks like I've only four posts till Gold Member! Unhelpful posts like this are the foundation of it!
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/05 16:45:43
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/05 16:57:29
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Dubley ;).
I would definitely be better if it had been done in Doubly... I always thought they said Dublin though. Like "It'd sound better if it had been done in Dublin".
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/05 18:32:48
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watch out for the media player volume slider…it can trick you! :-0
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/05 18:34:05
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☄ Helpfulby Anderton 2014/04/05 19:27:04
It's quite common that WMP has effects on by default. There's been several threads about it. Check that.
Or do you possibly have a proper soundcard for SONAR, and WMP uses the integrated soundchip?
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/05 18:42:38
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That's why you should use a wave editor to not only master, but to listen.
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/05 18:44:17
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Windows Media Player processes audio a lot to make it sound ?"better"? (In Microsoft's ears?), regardless of what settings you choose.
Try playing it through something like Audacity and see if there is any change.
Sorry for boring answer.
If it is a rock song, then it should certainly not be recorded in Dubly (TM). For any other genre, the use of Dubly (TM) is okay in small doses..
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/05 19:03:20
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I personally always listen through my exports in WMP (the start and the ending, at least) before sending files out and there's never been any surprises soundwise. I'm pretty sure you have to actively set an FX or EQ to make WMP fudge up your audio!
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/05 21:09:01
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Wow, did I miss a memo :)
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/06 04:02:08
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
Wow, did I miss a memo :)
Yeah,umm when was Sonar X4 released? Bob PS Just to let the Original Poster know,Windows Media Player ALWAYS makes rendered/exported files sound "brighter",I discovered this sometime ago,and now I only use VLC free media player to playback/check exports. Of course there are a multitude of media players,but Windows Media Player definitely does not replay files as they"are",even when one has made SURE to disable ALL "enhancements",why it does this,or more importantly why Microsoft thinks all our files need "extra treble",is of course a mystery.
post edited by bobguitkillerleft - 2014/04/06 04:42:42
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/06 13:03:29
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WAit!! when did X4 come out??
As far as the posters problem, the is no problem. Its either 3 things (or all the above of 2 of 3)
1.) You jus need to look at your media playback options. sonar exports exactly what you tell it to. you could be setting your export options Wrong!
2.) Your routing in sonar is wrong.
a. Tracks go to the master bus
b. Master bus goes to the main outs 1/2
c. Sends go to buses (if you have any)
d. Buses go to the master bus (if you have any)
When your done fixing your routing: Export, you select main outs or entire mix for your source and you will hear exactly what you hear in sonar on any playback system.
3) Getting mixes to translate on other playback systems is an art form, so maybe your room needs to be tuned and your ears need to be tuned to that room, as you need to hear the true sounds of each track and of your mix.
a.) As you should already know, media players an d hi fi stereos systems color the sound and some can make your song more bassy or more trebley. This is why you need to work on your mixes being able to translate well on each playback system.
Your welcome
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/06 14:41:38
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Yeah. Say Marc 2109. Though you do have SONAR X3 in your original post, you may want to change the tittle of this thread to reflect it's SONAR X3 you are referring to. not SONAR X4.
Try the advice in post #8, post #10, and post 13. How does the file sound when listening with a wave editor such as Audacity?
Are you using onboard sound to playback sound when using WMP and an audio interface semi-pro or pro when listening at playback using SONAR?
Double check your export audio settings.
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/08 15:02:26
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I'm sorry about the Typo..of course I meant X3. My routing in Sonar is correct...thanks for that advice. The internal soundcard of the computer is disabled. I am using Fast Track Ultra and my monitors for everything. I just found out how to check the settings in Media Player, so I will do that tonight. Thanks for all the help folks.
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/09 09:08:42
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I hear no difference in media player...
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/09 18:37:38
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WMP is likely using the "enhancements" section of the default windows sound card. These have to be editted in the "sound card settings" for that device.
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/09 19:26:39
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Be thankful it's not the other way around, more people have windows media player than Sonar........
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Re: Exported audio is has brighter tone than in Sonar X4
2014/04/11 02:58:18
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I was the similar problem. My problem gone after i open Playback option in windows (sorry i dont know how it is in english i dont have english version Win7). And go to Monitors or Headphones > right click > options > Effects > Turn off system effect.
Maybe this help.
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