Extreme metal

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2013/04/13 18:03:15 (permalink)

Extreme metal

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long time no post.

well a while anyhow. first track i've put on here for..over a year probably??

Extreme metal, purposefully in the Swedish blackened death idiom for those of you who care about such details.

This was recorded about 4 months ago, and I have remixed in X2, which I have to say has been marvellous - no crashes, love the pro-channel, yes i'm a fan...

anyhoo, comments are very appreciated, and i will get back onto the commenting front. thanks.

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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/13 21:25:07 (permalink)
    I don't usually listen to death metal etc. so it is always fun to hear some.  Been too long for you.  Sounds good to me.  I love the break constrast.  And the guitar after it very nice.

    I did use to play death metal in NY when I drove a cab.  Switch between this and the religious station after 4 am picking up all the drunks on the weekend.  And look grim. ;-)

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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/13 23:14:46 (permalink)
    mgh, WOW, that was, well, uh, pretty In Vain, to say the least. Very different for me, as I'm sure you already know. You seemed to capture the title of the song quite well,, but is a bit to much  for my old ears. I tried thought.

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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/13 23:19:42 (permalink)
    The drums seem non existent in relationship to everything in the mix.  The guitars are too overpowering for my taste.  I feel as if the vocals and drums should be more upfront.
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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/14 05:39:37 (permalink)
    needs drums man.
    good tune, nice guitar work, nice vocal, a little much distortion on the mix and drums are too low.
    love the sound of the guitars, very powerful
    with that comes a trade of though of blanking the rest of the mix.

    I mix metal a lot and know how difficult and can be to squezze it all in the mix but overloading levels will cause distortion, not the good kind either :)

    you have the basis for a mint tune.

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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/14 11:17:26 (permalink)
    Mark, a year?  I can't believe it's been that long since I listened to some "Swedish blackened Death" music!!  I can always count on waking up when I click on a MGH tune!  Great guitar work and your robodrummer is tireless.  The change at 3:28 threw me off!  You sly devil.  I love that "turbo Marshall" sound when it comes back in.  Glad you're back.

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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/14 13:32:41 (permalink)
    I believe this would benefit from just a little more blackness and death. And yes the drums could come out a bit more. You could always duck the bass a little with a compressor against the kick? And push the transients on the drums.

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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/16 15:28:12 (permalink)
    hey thanks to you all for listening! i appreciate this is well outside most of your comfort zones! 
    to answer some specific points, this has got a much better/solid bass and drum sound than the previous mix, but i really struggle with my top-heavy Behringer Truth's to get a solid bass end.
    need to invest in a decent pair of headphones i think.
    and the OTT guitars - well yes, there's no compression on them at all, it's just a LePou Legion cab run thru NI Guitar rig cabs...if you listen to similar bands (Dawn, DIssection, Sacramentum) you get the same guitar sound...just they had better producers!
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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/17 12:43:43 (permalink)
    mgh


    https://soundcloud.com/memorare/in-vain

    long time no post.

    well a while anyhow. first track i've put on here for..over a year probably??

    Extreme metal, purposefully in the Swedish blackened death idiom for those of you who care about such details.

    This was recorded about 4 months ago, and I have remixed in X2, which I have to say has been marvellous - no crashes, love the pro-channel, yes i'm a fan...

    anyhoo, comments are very appreciated, and i will get back onto the commenting front. thanks.

    Vintage outstanding guitar playing Mark!! Loved the song also. As for the mix, you know me and mixing I can't help much there. 
    Excellent!!
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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/18 11:16:29 (permalink)
    Great work Mark. Guitars sound fab here. Bass is fine. Drums could use some more energy, and the vocals definitely need to come up a bit. Other than that, nicely done my man.

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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/18 11:36:46 (permalink)
    sounds great as is, keeping in with the genre.

    That break really sets up a monstrous return.
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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/18 17:23:28 (permalink)
     Very melodic piece Mark, I think my favorite from you. Guitar performances were great, I liked all the tones, even though I'm not a fan of most growling, I really liked the vocals in the first part, a nicely developed melody there. Drums could come up a tad but the rest sounds spot on to me. Great job Mark

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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/18 19:15:18 (permalink)
    Hey, Mark,
     
    Great song with a very cool intro and nice thick wall of guitars!
     
    I love the ripping lead around the three minute mark, the quiet bridge was nicely done, and I really liked the tasteful return from it.
     
    The mix sounds just right for the genre, but the drums are buried.  If I took all that time to program that monster drum track, I'd definitely push them up a few dB and beef them up with some low end.
     
    Excellent work, Mark!
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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/19 12:41:46 (permalink)

    mgh
    man, i love all the guitar tracks, the performances...
    and i like the melody idea...
    but the mix needs a bunch of work, eh?

    this is dense.....
    and the tracks are all well thought out.....
    you gotta match the performance with the same level of mix.

    you gotta define frequencies here with absolute extreme prejudice.

    and carve frequencies specifically for getting everything to stand out in it's own spot.
     and pay super close attention to your low end, from 200 hz down.


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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/19 13:35:42 (permalink)
    Not really my thing but I did listen

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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/19 17:03:04 (permalink)
    Good to see and hear you back, Mark.  Great return debut here with this dramatic piece overflowing with excellent guitar work.  I especially liked the transition and build that occurred between 4:00 and 4:30.  Nice work.
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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/19 17:08:13 (permalink)
    hey chaps
    many thanks for listening. i forget until i check in what a fine body of men/women frequent here.
    so, i have d/l to my ipod and listened again - yes the drums can come up a bit. grrr...really need new monitors i think. i don't want a superclean production, however, as that doesn't fit in with the music style. The compressed saturated sound is deliberate. however i need to glue it all together, and yes sort out the low end. hang fire....

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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/20 21:52:32 (permalink)
    Wow - that's big. Great playing - mix does need some work though. Tough for me to listen to vocals like that. For the genre - very good.

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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/20 22:30:09 (permalink)
    Hi Mark-

    The song is coool. I like it a lot. The drums are still buried though. They need to express power. The vocal is coming through for the most part on my system. If you feel like spending the time, try finding the kick and the snare's key frequencies. For this genre, the kick needs a combination of ~80Hz and ~4kHz for the click of the beater. The snare needs to cut and be in your face. When you identify these freqs, try notching the guitars at a high/narrow Q and boosting the kick and snare at the same freq. This will allow the key freqs of the kick and snare to cut through the "holes" you create by notching. 

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    Re:Extreme metal 2013/04/28 11:00:12 (permalink)

    Hey Mark, this sounds great!

    I really like the intro, it really sets up the song nicely.

    And some awesome guitar playing in there mucker - love them sweeps.


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