FAO Cake: A VST3 followed by a UAD plug causes SONAR X3 to crash - CWBRN-19994

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1227448/testCrash.cwp
 
That is a cwp with no audio. One track with the following VSTs.
 
Bass Rider(VST3)
T-Racks 2A (VST2) - Edit: This not necessary to cause the crash
UAD Helios (VST2)
 
 
If you own these plugs dl the project, open it and try to turn off or delete T-Racks. It crashes for me.
 
I even tried Boost 11 in lieu of T-Racks 2a. Same. Crash.
 
When I just have Bass Rider (VST3) followed by a single VST2 (T-Racks or Boost11) I cannot make it crash. 
 
 

bapu
Update:
 
I just tried a new crash-able scenario.
 
Open a new project.
 
Insert Bass Rider (VST3)
Insert any UAD plug (VST2)
 
Crash.
 
 
And people laugh at me because I own "too many plugs".
 
I should be a beta tester.
 

UPDATE:
 
I just tried a new scenario
 
Mix Control Large (VST3)
UAD Pulteq (VST2)
 
Crash city.
 
So it's not isolated to Waves/UAD but it's related to any VST3/UAD combination
 
 
See post above

scook

bapu
 
I should be a beta tester.
 

They denied your application?

Can you blame them?

bapu
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1227448/testCrash.cwp
 
That is a cwp with no audio. One track with the following VSTs.
 
Bass Rider(VST3)
T-Racks 2A (VST2)
UAD Helios (VST2)
 
 
If you own these plugs dl the project, open it and try to turn off or delete T-Racks. It crashes for me.
 
I even tried Boost 11 in lieu of T-Racks 2a. Same. Crash.
 
When I just have Bass Rider (VST3) followed by a single VST2 (T-Racks or Boost11) I cannot make it crash. 
 
 

Just spoke to our team about this issue. Thank you for the recipe on this.  We are definitely looking into it. 

Dan Gonzalez [Cakewalk]

bapu
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1227448/testCrash.cwp
 
That is a cwp with no audio. One track with the following VSTs.
 
Bass Rider(VST3)
T-Racks 2A (VST2)
UAD Helios (VST2)
 
 
If you own these plugs dl the project, open it and try to turn off or delete T-Racks. It crashes for me.
 
I even tried Boost 11 in lieu of T-Racks 2a. Same. Crash.
 
When I just have Bass Rider (VST3) followed by a single VST2 (T-Racks or Boost11) I cannot make it crash. 
 
 

Just spoke to our team about this issue. Thank you for the recipe on this.  We are definitely looking into it. 

Dan, see post 4 and 5.

Verified here. I used Softube Active EQ and a UDA plug. Immediate crash.
 
Dean

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Can you all list the CWBRN numbers for this particular crash? I need the minidumps

CWBRN-19994

From the dump you sent, the crash for this bug is heap corruption in the UAD code. I'm now going to try installing a Quad and see if I can reproduce it.

FAULTING_IP:
UAD2SDK+e88b3
00000000`1ba988b3 ff5008 call qword ptr [rax+8]
EXCEPTION_RECORD: ffffffffffffffff -- (.exr 0xffffffffffffffff)
ExceptionAddress: 000000001ba988b3 (UAD2SDK+0x00000000000e88b3)
ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
Parameter[0]: 0000000000000000
Parameter[1]: ffffffffffffffff
Attempt to read from address ffffffffffffffff
PROCESS_NAME: SONARPDR.exe
ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%08lx referenced memory at 0x%08lx. The memory could not be %s.
EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%08lx referenced memory at 0x%08lx. The memory could not be %s.
EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1: 0000000000000000
EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2: ffffffffffffffff
READ_ADDRESS: ffffffffffffffff
FOLLOWUP_IP:
UAD2SDK+e88b3
00000000`1ba988b3 ff5008 call qword ptr [rax+8]
NTGLOBALFLAG: 0
ADDITIONAL_DEBUG_TEXT: Enable Pageheap/AutoVerifer
FAULTING_THREAD: 00000000000006d0
BUGCHECK_STR: APPLICATION_FAULT_HEAP_CORRUPTION_INVALID_POINTER_READ_CALL
PRIMARY_PROBLEM_CLASS: HEAP_CORRUPTION_CALL
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: HEAP_CORRUPTION_CALL
IP_ON_HEAP: 000000001be602c8
The fault address in not in any loaded module, please check your build's rebase
log at <releasedir>\bin\build_logs\timebuild\ntrebase.log for module which may
contain the address if it were loaded.
FRAME_ONE_INVALID: 1
LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 000000001be602c8 to 000000001ba988b3
STACK_TEXT:
00000000`0012edd0 00000000`1be602c8 : 00000000`77283518 00000000`1be60000 00000000`00000002 00000000`1bae7f18 : UAD2SDK+0xe88b3
00000000`0012edd8 00000000`77283518 : 00000000`1be60000 00000000`00000002 00000000`1bae7f18 00000000`00000000 : 0x1be602c8
00000000`0012ede0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`16355890 00000000`00000040 00000000`00000000 00000000`1b487b2d : ntdll!RtlAllocateHeap+0x16c

STACK_COMMAND: ~0s; .ecxr ; kb
SYMBOL_NAME: heap_corruption!heap_corruption
FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner
MODULE_NAME: heap_corruption
IMAGE_NAME: heap_corruption
DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: HEAP_CORRUPTION_CALL_c0000005_heap_corruption!heap_corruption
BUCKET_ID: X64_APPLICATION_FAULT_HEAP_CORRUPTION_INVALID_POINTER_READ_CALL_heap_corruption!heap_corruption
WATSON_STAGEONE_URL: http://watson.microsoft.c...00e88b3.htm?Retriage=1
Followup: MachineOwner
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The Bapu
FWIW Noel, I can get the crash on my laptop with my UAD Solo.

CWBRN 19999
 
So it appears it's not Quad related nor machine specific.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Can you all list the CWBRN numbers for this particular crash? I need the minidumps

Hi Noel,
Don't know if you still needs minidumps, but if you do my CWBRN is 20005
 
Dean

Bapu , you're pluginly abusing your Daw ....aren't ashamed !!? 
WAves 
UAD 
IK ect ...
VST 2 , VST 3 ....ahah 

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
I got to the bottom of this problem. I gave up trying to install the UAD 2 quad. Their drivers would recognise the hardware on both of my computers. However Lance was able to get one working on a different machine and we could repro it.
I finally found the problem by inspecting our UAD specific code. It has to do with a custom UAD API that we use for optimizing chaining UAD plugins side by side. This API doesn't handle VST3 plugins and therefore causes the crash.
I will test my fix tomorrow.

THIS is productive problem solving! Intelligent discussion and investigation. Only a little Bapu banter mixed in :)