FET Compressor ?

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2012/03/22 22:42:30 (permalink)

FET Compressor ?

Ilok stopped me from buying the soft tube bundle , Dose anyone know of an FET type compressor? I found this has any seen this? and if so how dose it compare?http://www.hor-net.com/pl...-channelstrip-mk2.html

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    The Maillard Reaction
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    Re:FET Compressor ? 2012/03/23 07:21:10 (permalink)

    Seeing how Field Effect Transistors are primarily valued for their similarity to vacuum tube response why not go all out and get something with some tubes in it?

    The only reason they used the FETs was to save a bunch of money on the power supply.

    http://www.waltzingbear.c...matics/Urei/UA_176.htm



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    Re:FET Compressor ? 2012/03/23 08:15:39 (permalink)
    Ni has a 1176 model which uses Softube's modeling.
    http://www.native-instrum...compressors/?page=2192

    IK also has one called the Black 76. If you buy a crossgrade for T-Racks you get it for free. Almost as expensive on it's own.  
    http://www.ikmultimedia.c...s/moreinfo/black76.php

    Waves also has the CLA76 - now iLock-less. 
    http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=9311

    After some more testing, I prefer NI's to IK, but I've avoided trying Waves', because I know I'll probably want to buy it on the spot.





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    Re:FET Compressor ? 2012/03/23 09:17:14 (permalink)
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    Waves also has the CLA76 - now iLock-less. 
    http://www.waves.com/Content.aspx?id=9311

    After some more testing, I prefer NI's to IK, but I've avoided trying Waves', because I know I'll probably want to buy it on the spot.

    If you're going to try Waves check out the CLA Classic Compressors (2A+ 3A+ 76 bluey+blacky) it's cheaper than the Waves single CLA-76 link up above.  http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=9297
    For an even lower price join http://www.wavesuniverse.com/
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    Re:FET Compressor ? 2012/03/23 12:09:49 (permalink)
    What distinguishes a FET from, say, and optical voltage divider, is its high speed (as fast as 20us on an 1176). Any compressor capable of near-instantaneous response will do the job, regardless of whether or not the vendor describes it as having anything to do with FETs.

    As Mike noted above, FETs are used because they are very similar in behavior to a vacuum tube but are smaller, don't get hot, and don't require a high-voltage power supply. A VST that purports to emulate a tube-based compressor ought to support equally-fast attack times.

    If you're specifically looking for an 1176 emulation, IK's Black 76 is claimed to be an accurate model of the 1176.


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    Re:FET Compressor ? 2012/03/23 14:50:03 (permalink)
    I tend to appraise digital compressors by how they perform in the digital environment found in the box.

    As has been said if I wanted an actual classic piece of hardware then I'd get one.

    Buying a compressor on the strength of it's lookalike fascia and the fact that I'm told that some of the behaviour has been modelled on certain aspects seen on a graph that relates to an old metal box seems to me to be a strange way to find out that your requirements are going to be met.

    Electronics terms like FET are meaningless in DSP algorithms that rely on real-time computation and look-up tables, they are merely calculations based on observed behaviour (modelling).  Digital has great strengths for DSP application, modelling percieved behaviour of old stuff is about the most unlikely way of achieving those strengths.

    Most companies allow trial use of plug-ins, if you have a basic knowledge of the use of compression in audio then I'd recommend trying a few out to find one that best meets your needs rather than something that merely claims to be 'like the real thing'.

    Funny thing is that anyone that used 'the real thing' when it was current would have loved to have made a whole bunch of improvements to pretty much every piece of gear they had.  Now the possibility is here to have those improvements everyone seems to think it must be cool to go back to the old days.  Go figure?

    Having said that I'm really enjoying playing with this one just now.

    http://varietyofsound.wor...ekerla-released-today/

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    Re:FET Compressor ? 2012/03/23 16:28:16 (permalink)
    What distinguishes a FET from, say, and optical voltage divider, is its high speed (as fast as 20us on an 1176). Any compressor capable of near-instantaneous response will do the job, regardless of whether or not the vendor describes it as having anything to do with FETs.



    Thanks never knew any of that!!! 

    Mike Thanks too ..That schematic looks like chinese to me :)

    I like to thank all you guys for helping me out, I really have no clue what differences are. I just really listen to my ears , what ever sounds good to me . 
    Now I have another question would I benefit really from a FET type /style compressor, whats the main source of material used , Would EDM music that I write benefit? 
     
    Normally for years I used the sonitus compressor and that did me justice, I know use the pc4k alot on most individual tracks when needed and the pc76 on my bus / groups. 

    Thanks Again for all your help..
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    Re:FET Compressor ? 2012/03/23 16:47:58 (permalink)
    The PC76 is modeled after the infamous 1176 (FET compressor), isn't it?

    IIRC, Sonitus also mimics the behavior of various types of compressor, maybe even FET (can't remember but I think it does).



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