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FM8 synth MIDI effect
Hello I'm sort of doing Vocoder stuff with Native Instruments FM8 synth plugin and I've reached a brain blockage, I've done something similar before but obviously too long ago. What I did was: * Insert FM8 synth in a vocal audio track as an effect. * Within FM 8 UI - Point the FM8 IN source (under advanced in FM 8) to some modulator. * I can now play the vocal through the FM8 synth, and I can use my mouse to the keys on the FM 8 musical keyboard to give vocoder type effects. So the question is Now how do I set up MIDI channel 1 to this synth so I can play it on my musical keyboard rather than use my mouse (obviously I'm not using FM8 soft synth in this instance, I'm using FM8 as an effect). OR The other way would be to set up a soft synth track whereby I easily could play the FM8 synth with MIDI channel 1, however I would need to route audio into the FM8 soft synth like a side chain. I know this probably simple but... I look forward to feeling stupid later... Thanks
post edited by CakeAlexS - 2014/01/31 18:07:59
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/01/31 20:22:57
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Have you tried re-seting your plug ins and then re-scanning? Or I may have that the wrong way round.. Try both. Are all your drivers up to date? 
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/01/31 20:25:17
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Yes I have done this. My drivers are up to date. This is a workflow issue, the thing at fault here is the user. This user (me) needs education.
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/01/31 20:28:45
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Have you tried uninstalling X3d and re-installing, and then re-setting/ re-scanning or re-scanning/re-setting? 
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/01/31 20:30:28
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Have you tried not trolling. I appreciate it is Friday night and you have come back from the pub, your dodgy posts are always around this time.
Don't worry I will find the answer elsewhere clearly you are trying to disrupt my thread.
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/01/31 20:32:01
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Glad the sense of humour bypass was successful.
Good luck.
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/01/31 20:33:44
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Not been to pub, I have a family to spend my time with.
You are making many friends here. Night night.
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/02/01 01:03:11
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Hey Cakealexs
I'm using my iPad so can't see signatures. Have you entered all your equipment details so we don't have to ask about those every time you post in this thread.
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/02/01 01:05:30
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Hey jb101,
This is more fun than going to the pub. :-)
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/02/01 04:28:32
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Thanks for your help. Please consider this thread hijacked.
post edited by CakeAlexS - 2014/02/01 05:24:03
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/02/01 05:27:06
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This is in the wrong forum. Please move it immediately.
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/02/01 05:36:50
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mudgel
Hey jb101,
This is more fun than going to the pub. :-)
:-)
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/02/01 10:43:11
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http://blog.cakewalk.com/go-deeper-with-pentagon-the-hidden-vocoder/
Could be the same way to setup the FM8 synth .
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/02/01 11:13:11
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Thanks Jan
Yes I tried that, I had Pentagon lined up exactly the same as FM8. It seems Pentagon exposes parameters in the output dropdown of the MIDI track but FM8 does not (therefore Pentagon works, FM8 doesn't).
Weird though, Ableton users apparently can get this running. I know Ableton can do things that Sonar cannot however when it comes to plugins so I'm speculating (rightly or wrongly) this is maybe a Sonar a limitation right now.
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/02/02 06:06:47
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this is maybe a Sonar a limitation right now. I'm sorry, everything in SONAR is 100% perfect. (annoying isn't it?) Seriously - have a look at Ferret 4 X 4 - at the bottom http://www.eareckon.com/en/products/freebies.html I've never tried this in SONAR - but it might do what you want - as you could split an audio track and maybe use one of these outs - to input in to FM8. It's worth a try. There's another one called Polysher - which does MIDI stuff. Maybe you could wrangle something out of it? Also - try ticking or unticking the "use as a synth" box in the FM8 plugin properties? Don't forget to rescan and reset all your plugins first though...
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/02/02 06:46:27
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Sell by date at 9000 posts. Do not feed. @48/24 & 128 buffers latency is 367 with offset of 38. Sonar Platinum(64 bit),Win 8.1(64 bit),Saffire Pro 40(Firewire),Mix Control = 3.4,Firewire=VIA,Dell Studio XPS 8100(Intel Core i7 CPU 2.93 Ghz/16 Gb),4 x Seagate ST31500341AS (mirrored),GeForce GTX 460,Yamaha DGX-505 keyboard,Roland A-300PRO,Roland SPD-30 V2,FD-8,Triggera Krigg,Shure SM7B,Yamaha HS5.Maschine Studio+Komplete 9 Ultimate+Kontrol Z1.Addictive Keys,Izotope Nectar elements,Overloud Bundle,Geist.Acronis True Image 2014.
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Re: FM8 synth MIDI effect
2014/02/02 08:39:33
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Sorry - I meant the inane response is annoying (well, they are to me anyway)
Let us know if those tools work - I bet they will...
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