unit25luca
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FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
My Projects are chrashing since the Foxboro Update. It seems that there is a Major Problem with VST´s from other companies like Native Instruments or my all time favorite EQ from Fabfilter.
Last but not least cakewalk comand center forces me to activate my Sonar (Member since 4 Months) otherwise it takes me back to demo mode in 9 days ??????? that´s hillarious.....
Same after the Update of DIM Pro.... Took me hours to bring it back to life
I never had such big problems and bad experiences with a DAW. Never wasted so much time in installing / re installing tweaking to run something for 50 Bugs a Month properly.
switching to Studio One3... installed......all is running fine and perfect... no crackles, no issues, no chrashes...
bye bye cakewalk.
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Bristol_Jonesey
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 09:00:57
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 09:15:47
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 09:17:40
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 09:25:56
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We'll help, but If you advertise another DAW here in your final shot that's classless and troll-like so buh-bye.
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Doktor Avalanche 
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 09:28:11
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☄ Helpfulby Keni 2015/08/14 13:56:55
Komplete Ultimate and Maschine runs fine here apart from Reflektor where there is a NI bug (just roll back a version of Reflektor). It seems you have a serious configuration problem at your end (ask yourself why it works for us and not for you). We did try to help you but you ignored us, (sorry we can't help those who don't help themselves): http://forum.cakewalk.com/Sonar-Platinum-stucks-chrashes-after-foxboro-update-m3261403.aspx#3261403 I'm sorry you had an issue registering Dim Pro, at least you allowed us to help you and it got resolved (go figure). Anyway love and kisses goodbye...
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/08/14 09:36:29
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ChazEd
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 09:33:55
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Don't slam the door on your way out. Good luck  !
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 09:42:56
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☄ Helpfulby Mitch_I 2015/08/14 12:55:12
unit25luca
My Projects are chrashing since the Foxboro Update. It seems that there is a Major Problem with VST´s from other companies like Native Instruments or my all time favorite EQ from Fabfilter.
- When I had problems with NI Komplete and its inability to update plug-ins without making them inoperative, I contacted Native Instruments tech support and they sorted things out for me. Their plugs still don't always update properly, but this is a known Windows-related issue and they provided a workaround that solves the problem.
- When I had problems with Live (which I use for live performance), I contacted Ableton tech support and they gave me a workaround that solved my issue (they fixed the bug in a subsequent update).
- When I had major problems with Studio One (which I use for album assembly), I contacted PreSonus tech support and they identified the pilot error causing the problem.
Call me crazy, but from this I conclude that contacting tech support is more likely to fix problems than whining in a forum. The reason why companies offer tech support is to help people like you and me. The difference with Cakewalk compared to some other companies is that the support is free, so not taking advantage of tech support is your fault, not Cakewalk's. FYI Foxboro isn't the latest version, and a VST reset+rescan often fixes "my plug-ins don't work any more" problems.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 10:04:12
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a) Self diagnoses a crash issue but does not actually find the cause of a crash. Hints it could be NI or fab filter plugins but obviously doesn't actually know the cause of the crash. That's a bit like leaving the car parked, coming back, seeing something has happened to it, and blaming it on aliens. Then reporting it to the police car is broken, the police ring back trying to ask what exactly does he mean, and he never answers the call: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Sonar-Platinum-stucks-chrashes-after-foxboro-update-m3261403.aspx#3261403 b) Posts another thread, clearly in newbie territory. Decides to call it a review and effectively calls it useless. Very vague. Obvious never RTFM. Again disappears and does not supply feedback apart from typing in CAPs lock. http://forum.cakewalk.com/review-sonar-platinum-m3226773.aspx c) I assume he did not contact tech support. d) Posts here telling people how terrible it is and storms off. Show a lack of patience. Nevermind we will all live.
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JonD
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 11:02:32
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unit25luca
(Translated for clarity)
Dear Manufacturer,
This morning, your car (my Toyota) wouldn't start. Seems like this started since I switched from Chevron to Shell gasoline.
I never had problems and bad experiences with a car. Never wasted so much time in trying to start my car and getting it to run properly.
Just bought a Ford Taurus. It started right up. It is running fine and perfect....No issues, it starts every time...
bye bye Toyota...
We can help you troubleshoot the Toyota. If you're not willing, well then, enjoy the Ford Taurus!
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 11:51:36
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And here I was just getting to know the OP.
Ce La Vie.
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jsg
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 13:14:48
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unit25luca
My Projects are chrashing since the Foxboro Update. It seems that there is a Major Problem with VST´s from other companies like Native Instruments or my all time favorite EQ from Fabfilter.
Last but not least cakewalk comand center forces me to activate my Sonar (Member since 4 Months) otherwise it takes me back to demo mode in 9 days ??????? that´s hillarious.....
Same after the Update of DIM Pro.... Took me hours to bring it back to life
I never had such big problems and bad experiences with a DAW. Never wasted so much time in installing / re installing tweaking to run something for 50 Bugs a Month properly.
switching to Studio One3... installed......all is running fine and perfect... no crackles, no issues, no chrashes...
bye bye cakewalk.
If you don't state what version of Sonar you're using, what audio card and driver and other pertinent information, it's going to be difficult to get help. I'm running Sonar Platinum and have 3 synths from NI running as VSTs: Massive, FM8 and Kontakt. They're all running flawlessly. I'd suspect your setup, not Sonar. JG www.jerrygerber.com
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Anderton
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 16:04:00
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jsg
...and have 3 synths from NI running as VSTs: Massive, FM8 and Kontakt.
Well since the OP probably won't come back, I don't feel bad hijacking the thread and saying you have good taste in synths. Those are my three fave NI synths as well. I love that FM8 can load the presets I slaved over creating for my TX802.
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mikedocy
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 19:52:41
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Hey Craig,
You mention you use Studio One for album assembly.
This sounds interesting.
I, and a lot of us here us CD Architect.
There must be some advantage or maybe you just like the gui workflow?
So why do you like it for album assembly? what can you do in Studio One that you can't in CD Arch?
Thanks.
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TomHelvey
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 20:01:14
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I haven't had any problems with NI or FabFilter ProQ-2, perhaps your problem lies elsewhere.
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Anderton
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/14 20:26:28
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mikedocy
Hey Craig,
You mention you use Studio One for album assembly.
This sounds interesting.
I, and a lot of us here us CD Architect.
There must be some advantage or maybe you just like the gui workflow?
So why do you like it for album assembly? what can you do in Studio One that you can't in CD Arch?
Thanks.
I like the analytics (metering etc., particularly the Dynamic Range metering) better, as well as being able to export in DDP and multiple other formats. CD Achitect is what I used before I switched. As you've probably figured out given my presence here, I don't use SOP's multitrack Song page (although if SONAR didn't exist, that's probably what I would use). However I don't really consider SOP a mastering program for heavy-duty mastering and restoring; Wavelab or Sound Forge, with a hefty dose of iZotope software, get the nod for that.
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 09:50:33
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Another satisfied spambot.
Be happy in your work.
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 13:54:06
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jsg
...and have 3 synths from NI running as VSTs: Massive, FM8 and Kontakt.
Well since the OP probably won't come back, I don't feel bad hijacking the thread and saying you have good taste in synths. Those are my three fave NI synths as well. I love that FM8 can load the presets I slaved over creating for my TX802.
Z3TA and Massive have been my favorites for quite a while. When I was scoring the Gumby TV series in the late 1980s I had 8 DX-7s in a rack (TX-816). But the FM8 is more powerful, the original DX7s only had sine waves for waveforms, FM8 has many more, plus effects, arpeggiation, etc. My, haven't we been lucky to have been born at the time we were so as to enjoy the amazing evolution of digital instruments! Jerry www.jerrygerber.com
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Anderton
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 14:46:03
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jsg
My, haven't we been lucky to have been born at the time we were so as to enjoy the amazing evolution of digital instruments!
Jerry, you might get a kick out of this article by Chris Loeffler about that very topic.
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 16:07:42
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Craig, the link to the article does not work for me (the url references /admin/ so I assume you have diff privileges there).
Chris has a gazillion articles and posts.
Can you post the name of the article or a link for us mortals.
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 17:31:04
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Sorry about that, I was in the CMS flowing text around an image and grabbed that URL by mistake. Here's the public-facing link. I do think it's a very interesting article. HC has a commentary called "Beyond 11" and normally I write it, but I liked what Chris wrote so much I subbed it for mine, which was inferior anyway  . Besides, we needed something a little more serious after my one from last week: "The Future of Music Streaming - Poodles, Bartenders, and Vladimir Putin." Back to SONAR. It just seemed that a thread where the OP comes in, rants, and leaves should have something of interest for the idly curious.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 18:35:42
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Oh Content Management System now is it? He's talking shop :)
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 18:46:35
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It was a good article with some good observations of the music gear industry. How about an article that describes the amount of debt these big box music retailers carry to keep us supplied with disposable gear?
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 19:02:32
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ampfixer
It was a good article with some good observations of the music gear industry. How about an article that describes the amount of debt these big box music retailers carry to keep us supplied with disposable gear? Well that story has received plenty of coverage, so that makes us less interested in doing yet another article on the subject. This article from Forbes is a good example. Also Eric Garland's articles have received wide circulation, and here's another one. However, don't write off Guitar Center yet. Bond holders, who tend to know things before we do, are voting with their dollars and are showing more confidence in GC. All the rounds of firings may have made enough of a difference in the bottom line to ease some of the financial pressure. The story isn't over... I do, however, think the disposable gear issue deserves further discussion. I've written about this quite a bit, and probably will continue doing so since it doesn't really seem to be on too many peoples' radar.
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 19:19:54
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Sounds like to me someone has been in the "cracked" use territory hence the lack of contacting tech support for those manufacturers..I run all the same software and the companies have been very good at troubleshooting issues for me when they pop up.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 21:09:36
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Aharvey
Sounds like to me someone has been in the "cracked" use territory hence the lack of contacting tech support for those manufacturers..I run all the same software and the companies have been very good at troubleshooting issues for me when they pop up.
Disagree. When you are dealing with a monthly customer you might get an entirely different profile. It's not as important to them as the people who own the product and paid 12 months up front.... That's not to dis.. other people on the monthly either.
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 21:15:03
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Doktor Avalanche
Disagree. When you are dealing with a monthly customer you might get an entirely different profile. It's not as important to them as the people who own the product and paid 12 months up front.
Really? I would think anyone who paid for using the program would want to have it working properly, and therefore contact tech support. I actually hadn't considered the crack angle but that would explain why some people simply refuse to contact tech support, assuming there isn't some other limitation like long-distance phone bills calling from Ulan Bator.
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 21:21:10
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Doktor Avalanche
Disagree. When you are dealing with a monthly customer you might get an entirely different profile. It's not as important to them as the people who own the product and paid 12 months up front.
Anderton
Really? I would think anyone who paid for using the program would want to have it working properly, and therefore contact tech support.
I actually hadn't considered the crack angle but that would explain why some people simply refuse to contact tech support, assuming there isn't some other limitation like long-distance phone bills calling from Ulan Bator.
Basically to some people it's throw away. You pay your rent and move on. You don't own the product why should you bother to continue. In a way it's an extended trial. Not my mentality but that's what society is coming to nowadays... Cheers..
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/08/15 21:29:43
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 21:54:56
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To add, authentication via user account and polling (ie CCC) is extremely difficult to crack as authentication is done at server end rather than an permanent encryption key stored client side, unless the Cakewalk implementation is flimsy. We have seen examples of people going into demo mode against their wishes in these forums I am assuming there is an element of security here. This seems quite normal behaviour for a new implementation to me. On the other hand security is never impenetrable and Cakewalk I'm sure will be improving their security as times goes by.
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John T
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Re: FOR 50 Bugs too much bugs
2015/08/15 23:17:41
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Doktor Avalanche
Basically to some people it's throw away. You pay your rent and move on. You don't own the product why should you bother to continue. In a way it's an extended trial. Not my mentality but that's what society is coming to nowadays...
Cheers..
Ah. You want to argue a point based on what you speculate other people may or may not be thinking. I think I can boil that down to "you want to argue", without losing much of substance.
post edited by John T - 2015/08/15 23:32:33
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