spacey
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FRX tremolo system
I don' know... here. Not something I have a use for but I haven't liked a lot things Gibson has done. It's ugly too IMO. I was surprised they didn't have Rose redesign it and make it a Robot trem/tuner. Sheesh.
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 10:15:37
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Kahler already has a superior version of this, has been around for quite some time... i have one, on a 1984 Carvin DC200K does not require a huge route, either:
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spacey
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 10:20:59
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I can't see the first pic ? can see the second. Of course the original trem works just fine for me and can be had for a lot less than any of them. As long as I have tuners on the head no others are needed. I had a Gibson 347 with that fine tuning tailpiece years ago...T6 if I remember right but I do remember all those little knobs were just something I made sure were set right when I changed the strings...useless marketing junk to me.
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 10:24:09
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 10:29:34
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here's the guitar w/trem: well, with the kahler, there is a locking nut behind the actual nut (does not effect the tone of the guitar like a rose locking nut does)  so of course, once you've locked the nut, you need the fine tuners to dial in the actual final tune, after the strings have settled in. this thing works so well, i would never change it for anything else. an awesome 'floating' trem. here is the new one installed, with the old next to it:
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spacey
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 10:32:28
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$239.00 ! Kahler and Rose will not have to worry about me. They can keep their little fine tuning knobs...just don't need 'em. I bought nut files and learned how to make sure the bone was right for the strings...no locks needed. I'm glad there is a selection out there for us. I was thinking.... If I worked for Gibson knowing how appealing robotic/automatic contraptions are to them I would design a tailpiece that was programable. Instead of the fine tuning knobs they would be touch sensitive and user could program how much each string would be raised or lowered and by how much- semi tones- when touched. For example one could raise the third string, lower the first and not change any of the others. That would get the guitarist closer to a steel guitar...I guess there would be a few more buttons for release of pre-bends too LOL. ...with plans for the updated model to have "auto picker" so when a touch sensitive trem button was touched a little picker located in front of the saddles would pick the string. :)
post edited by spacey - 2014/12/09 11:18:21
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 12:40:53
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batsbrew

That is one drool-worthy looking instrument you have there Bat! (The neck pickup needs more pole pieces though...  )
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 14:30:04
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well, i have a standard 2-post trem on my custom strat, and it is set up floating, with a tremsetter... and it works well, but cannot touch the carvin/kahler setup for aggressive whammy bar use. just cannot. this thing, i can pull the trem up to the point where the strings ALMOST POP...........!!!!!!! and it will drop back down into perfect tune. i can deflate the strings to floppy land..... and the same thing when it comes back. i like it better than the floyd, because it is much easier to get very gentle vibrato (sounds like a Bigsby) with it, and it is very touch sensitive.
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 14:53:34
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I'm happy for you Bat. Very cool to have the tool that fits and that's how I feel with the Fender trems. When it works how you want it to all is good.
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 15:32:37
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Both presidents of Guild and Kramer Guitars gave me one free top of the line guitar in the 80's Guild used the Kahler …..Kramer used the Floyd Rose … I liked both systems just about equally ..eventualy I found that the Kahler seemed to fit my style of playing back then a little better …. carry on Kenny
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 16:39:26
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I guess I'm the only one that had anything to say about the FRX....I'm taking your advice Kenny and carrying on right on outta here.
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 16:51:43
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Carry on my wayward Spacey! (My last custom had the full-on original Floyd, the one being built - and on hold for years - will have a Kahler. We'll see!)
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 16:51:44
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OK I'LL SAY IT. it's fugly. LOL
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 16:52:45
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spacey I guess I'm the only one that had anything to say about the FRX....I'm taking your advice Kenny and carrying on right on outta here. 
what did you expect spacey ? , you are talking to guitar players about guitars Once anybody starts talking to guitar players about guitars , it is only a short matter of time before everybody starts whipping out the ole pictures , once that happens , before you know it , the next thing that's gonna happen is we all start telling our personal war stories ….. What can I possibly say about that FRX thing ? this thread is the first I've heard of it I play a Gibson Historic R 8 Plain top Cherry Sunburst Les Paul . If that thing comes anywhere's near my guitar I may have to use deadly force and go all EL Kabong on it's a$$ with a Squier Strat or something …… Every body knows that The Gibson Les Paul Cherry Sunburst is a perfect guitar just the way it is …even Gibson Knows that you see spacey , I just went all "Guitar Player " on you  it's an affliction bro …guitar players just can't help it  there is no cure for it have a nice day . Kenny
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spacey
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/09 19:58:27
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LOL Kenny! I think we'd had a great time if our paths would have crossed at Manny's. It is funny though...and to think...I wonder how many of the most expensive guitars in the world had all that stuff to wiggle the strings? lol Two of the biggest extreme whammy users I know of are Vai and Satch....someday those locknut needed whammy's and auto-tuners will be on the most expensive list. For now I guess we have to settle for that old hat stuff that players just had to learn how to make little tuning adjustments while they play...I can see where that could be getting to be a tuff thing for todays players to do...well I sure don't know but it seems that way. Of course now they want one guitar to sound like everything else rather than switch guitars...I'm just old so I don't see clearly these days I reckon.
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/10 07:52:59
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spacey
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Re: FRX tremolo system
2014/12/10 09:34:37
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Thank you Kenny. I feel the same about you. I think there are a lot of cool folks here. Ya don't have to agree on everything and it's always great to have other views to think about. Like most everything to do with guitars it's what the player needs and likes so it's great that it's there for players. Since I think it's ugly as hell too I'm sure glad I don't need it. Of course I haven't seen eye to eye with Gibson for many years now. I guess if they put that thing on an SG they'd get my vote for most ugly award LOL. (yeah I'm ducking Herb :)
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