FX Chain presets?

OK- I created2 and saved them as FX Chains. closed and opened Sonar. Picked a different audio track FX Bin and tried to load one of my FX Chains. No where to be found? I have tried multiple times already.
Any ideas? I mean save as shopws you the directory it's going to be saved in, but no Preset? Only the same built in ones
EDIT: OK-now I tried control drag to put my FX chain in the new vocal track. It goes there but no FX? So I thyen extracted-Perfect space-LP64-Alloy. Still no FX? Very confusing. what's up here? So if it's me (probably is) what am I doing wrong?
Thanks Folks
EDIT #2: Went back to listen to the original Vocal track. Now remember all I did was drg from here to duplicate the chain in the next track. Well, now the original track has NO FX? what is going on? Very disheartening to say the least.
Anyone?
EDIT #3: Deleted all fx in the 2 vox tracks fx bins. Saved project\closed x1b. Reopened x1b-reopened project-added FX back (one at a time, no chains) Now the fx work. It is almost like the fx chains "disabled" the FX bin?
10 more minutes and It's off to sleep. I am really hoping that it's a "user error"- although seems pretty basic an operation-Thanks
EDIT #4: OK-it's ctrl+shioft drag, not control drag like windows. That part works. Still cannot save a user FX chain as a preset.