rbowser
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FX Sends that suddenly stop sending
Hmm, well now, I've been around the Cakewalk Ranch for a number of years now, but I've never had this particular problem before. Maybe someone here will recognize the symptoms and have a fix.
--A project of 49 audio tracks. Two Reverb buses. Most tracks have their Sends going to one FX bus or the other, some tracks go to both.
--While mixing, some of the Sends stop sending any signal out. I look and look, don't see anything squirrely going on with track settings, or settings Anywhere in the project.
--Solution - dumb one, is to make a new audio track, drag the clip in, set up a bus - and it works. The new track looks identical in the project, only it's working right, and the old one isn't.
--I've had that happen on three different tracks in this project. You can imagine I thought my ears were going wonky when I could hear this super dry sound sticking out in the middle of the mix--then realized the Sends weren't working.
Ever heard of such a thing?
Randy B.
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Re:FX Sends that suddenly stop sending
2011/10/26 20:48:43
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I've noticed the same sometimes.
sends are not reliable.
probably the best solution is to buy another DAW.
either that, or always check.
What's your system Randy? I just updated to an i7 rig and have noticed some anomolies like this. Don't remember it happening on XP.
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rbowser
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Re:FX Sends that suddenly stop sending
2011/10/26 20:57:25
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Thanks for the reply, Timidi
Well, at least I know it happens for someone else sometimes. Totally a new one on me, though.
I had this computer custom built, and have it for just a few months now. Most horse power I've ever had, but it's my first Windows 7 machine. Hmmmm, well - hmmm.
So it's Windows 7, 6 Core AMD Phenom II, 3000 Mhz, 8 gigs RAM, Gigabyte video card, dual monitors.
I'll just stay on the look out, and do that stupid fix I did on this project of making new audio tracks for ones that dud out.
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Re:FX Sends that suddenly stop sending
2011/10/26 21:22:57
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Randy, I have seen tracks that stop responding to nearly everything, ie: sends, sometime volume automation, sometimes automated pans don't work. I have had it happen in 6 and 8.5. I don't ever remember it happening in small projects - less than say 30 tracks. Only seems to happen when Sonar needs to keep a lot of stuff going on. Just flakey. Btw, I also have a professionaly built core I7 but I have stayed with XP pro. I'm not about to update 18K worth of sample libraries. My networked machines do a fine job of running them.
Your solution is the only one I know of that works. This is exactly the type of stuff that they should have been working on instead of ... well, you know what I mean.
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Re:FX Sends that suddenly stop sending
2011/10/26 21:36:13
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Hey, Randy, next time you get that to happen how about zipping up your project and sending it to me? I love a mystery.
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Re:FX Sends that suddenly stop sending
2011/10/26 22:42:59
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Danny, thanks - So, there's more confirmation about this happening sometimes. Kinda bums me out, literally have never seen this before. New machine, Windows 7 - argh, there's something a bit flakey in the equation there somehow. I've had numerous other quirky things come up that I just keep attributing to how "the latest and the greatest" can be so not that.
David - You're on! I'll do that if it comes up again - And I suppose it probably will. You're such a computer whiz, maybe you'll track down what's going on. Of course it's very possible the same problem won't happen on your set up - But, we'll see.
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Re:FX Sends that suddenly stop sending
2011/10/26 22:44:56
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literally have never seen this before. New machine, Windows 7 - argh, That's why I asked about your system. I'm thinkin it's something to do with Win7. just sayin.
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Re:FX Sends that suddenly stop sending
2011/10/26 22:51:34
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timidi
literally have never seen this before. New machine, Windows 7 - argh,
That's why I asked about your system. I'm thinkin it's something to do with Win7.
just sayin.
I'm hip, Timidi - It's very likely yet another tricky little Windows 7 quirk that can be unnoticed for a long time, until you stumble upon it. Well, W7 is all my computer guy would deal with, and I was a bit concerned, but had to go along. I do want to add that I fired up my old XP machine recently to access some things on it, and I couldn't believe how clunky and primitive in seemed, now that I'm used to Vista and now W7. Of course the machine itself didn't have the power of this one, --it has1 gig Ram, single core - but the OS itself just seemed so out of date and --clunky. BUT, when I ran Sonar on XP, at least I didn't have weirdness like I've described on this thread. Oh well! Randy B.
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Re:FX Sends that suddenly stop sending
2011/10/27 04:31:06
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Randy, I've had this happen to me before, both in 6PE & 8.5PE but only under XP32 (SP3)
The only solution was your workaround - copy all the events, sends & fx etc to a new track.
I've not seen this in X1 yet, but I'm still new to X1.
Time will tell.
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Re:FX Sends that suddenly stop sending
2012/05/03 11:41:38
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I have been having this on a newly loaded x64 machine with X1. Totally sucks.
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Re:FX Sends that suddenly stop sending
2012/05/04 18:27:29
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That's a new one to me and I've been using Win 7 + 8.5.3 for some time now. What happens if you insert a new send to the same bus in a track where the original send stopped working?
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Re:FX Sends that suddenly stop sending
2012/05/04 18:34:07
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Were getting forums mixed up he said x1. I had a similar thing when I was trialing X1 were you would insert a efx in a track and it would show up in a couple of others too. Buggy software I say. Never happens in 8.5.
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