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2015/01/21 10:08:48 (permalink)
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FX Stacks Improvement

Please consider increasing the contrast between enabled and disabled effects in the FX bin to make the difference more obvious. Here are some mockups of what that might look like from our good friend SteveStrummerUK:
 
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    Re: FX Stacks Improvement 2015/01/21 13:01:14 (permalink)
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    Agree - it's certainly not bad at the moment, but could be clearer.
     

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    Re: FX Stacks Improvement 2015/01/21 13:23:45 (permalink)
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    Re: FX Stacks Improvement 2015/01/21 13:37:25 (permalink)
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    Re: FX Stacks Improvement 2015/01/21 22:23:41 (permalink)
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    Yes, FX stacked looks washed out. Not super obvious to immediately recognize what's on and what's off.

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    Re: FX Stacks Improvement 2015/01/23 08:43:02 (permalink)
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    +1

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    Re: FX Stacks Improvement 2015/01/23 08:57:16 (permalink)
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    I guess there are two version of this request. On the other one, I wrote that the FX Stack buttons should use the same lit/unlit buttons as the control bar. Unifying the Skylight experience.
     
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    Re: FX Stacks Improvement 2015/01/24 07:46:10 (permalink)
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    Yes. Greater contrast would let you get the information at a glance instead of at a concentrated stare.
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    Re: FX Stacks Improvement 2015/01/25 08:50:00 (permalink)
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    This was the first thing that I thought when I saw the new FX bin!
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    Change effects color: please git rid of this insane light gray on lighter gray. 2015/01/28 22:55:58 (permalink)
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    Change effects color: please git rid of this insane light gray on lighter gray.
     
    I cannot read the disabled effects' labels.  WHY?????  Why should it not be WAY easy to quickly know what is what?
     
    And then enabled effects' buttons are BLACK ON GREY?  Oh, how clever.
     
    Way cool looking but not very effective nor efficient.
     
    This is another example of having to compensate for the user interface's lack of clarity.
     
    Make the disabled effects labels be BLACK on LIGHT GRAY. So they can be read easily.
     
    The enabled effect's button background should default to light green. And be user definable.
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Change effects color: please git rid of this insane light gray on lighter gray. 2015/02/02 02:29:23 (permalink)
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    Re: FX Stacks Improvement 2015/02/02 02:33:37 (permalink)
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    dcumpian
    I guess there are two version of this request. On the other one, I wrote that the FX Stack buttons should use the same lit/unlit buttons as the control bar. Unifying the Skylight experience.
     
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    Re: FX Stacks Improvement 2015/04/03 09:12:52 (permalink)
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    Re: FX Stacks Improvement 2015/04/03 10:54:16 (permalink)
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    +0.8. The more I use the Platinum, the more obvious the difference becomes but it shouldn't be necessary to acclimate over time to the change.

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    Re: FX Stacks Improvement 2015/04/03 14:33:54 (permalink)
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    +1.2 ... to compensate for Craig's missing 0.2 ;-)
     
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    Any of the proposed options in the screenshots would be very helpful ... the more obvious the difference, the less work your brain needs to do (and it has to do a lot already in long mixing sessions)
     

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    Re: FX Stacks Improvement 2015/04/03 14:43:48 (permalink)
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    Further proposition: Bypassing VST3 plugins (using global plugin bypass in VST3 plug) should be recognizable by Sonar ... hence, it think these plugs should also be coloured like/similar to other bypassed plugins (i.e. like the ones turned off in the FX bin) ...
     
    I have had occasions when I had double-clicked a plug and found the VST3 bypass engaged but could not remember that I actually clicked it  ... while this might just be pilot error from fatigue or an ugly occasional bug which I could never prove, simply showing the plug as disabled in the console view would have made that visible immediately
     

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    FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/22 19:02:10 (permalink)
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    I find it almost impossible to determine when a plugin is enabled or disabled in the effects bin. I'm not the dumbest guy on the planet yet for the life of me I can't figure out what the logic is - when does it turn blue, when light blue, when grey and when light grey?
     
    Please change the FX bin appearance in general so that it looks more professional and that it's obvious what state the plugin is in.

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    Re: FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/22 20:32:47 (permalink)
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    I'll agree with this. I've often had to toggle an effect just to make sure it was on. Generally the greyness of Sonar is terrible, Just load up 8.5 or Cubase and it very refreshing to see some colour. 

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    Re: FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/22 20:44:00 (permalink)
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    totally agree!

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    Re: FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/22 22:03:55 (permalink)
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    Yeah, it's far too subtle a difference, visually. I like the neatness of hiding the on / off button unless you hover over it, but that means something else has to do the visual job of the on / off button, and that's the bit they missed.

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    Re: FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/22 22:48:18 (permalink)
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     Generally the greyness of Sonar is terrible, Just load up 8.5 or Cubase and it very refreshing to see some colour. 

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    Re: FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/22 23:01:43 (permalink)
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    I generally like the clean sobriety of the UI design, myself, but I think there are a few places where they've valued aesthetics over function, and I'd like to see some of that tightened up a bit.

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    Re: FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/22 23:03:54 (permalink)
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    There's also some glaring inconsistency, and this FX bin thing is a great example of it. The general scheme is that things that are on are lit up blue, and things that are off are greyed out. Fine, that works. But the FX bin alternates between two different degrees of greyed out. It's not just unclear in and of itself, it also breaks the convention of the rest of the UI.
     

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    Re: FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/23 00:12:27 (permalink)
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    I agree with all the responses here. 

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    Re: FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/23 04:18:05 (permalink)
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    Voted. I agree that it would be nice with better contrast, in the FX bin.

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    Re: FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/23 10:51:38 (permalink)
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    Yep I'd like this. My eyes aren't getting any younger and I'm starting to have to really strain to use Sonar.

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    Re: FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/23 15:24:58 (permalink)
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    This is one of my few pet peeves with Sonar. It drives me nuts that the difference between on and off is so subtle. The PC modules have a button that lights up. FX in the bin should have something similar.

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    Re: FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/23 15:38:02 (permalink)
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    I've been thinking this exact same thing for awhile now just never posted anyting about it! glad i wasnt the only one who noticed its somewhat hard to tell on the fly. I've had to click the bypass on and off before just to be sure.
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    Re: FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/23 20:33:20 (permalink)
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    38 votes so far!
    CW, how many votes do you need to implement a user requested feature? 100

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    Re: FX Bin and bypassed effects 2015/07/24 04:26:07 (permalink)
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    I find it almost impossible to determine when a plugin is enabled or disabled in the effects bin. I'm not the dumbest guy on the planet yet for the life of me I can't figure out what the logic is - when does it turn blue, when light blue, when grey and when light grey?
     
    Please change the FX bin appearance in general so that it looks more professional and that it's obvious what state the plugin is in.




    I was thinking it would be cool to color code them like you can do to tracks. Pick an on and off color.

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