Doktor Avalanche
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Fab filter vs Ozone.
Why is Ozone better? I see the screenshots and Fab filter has far more eye candy and the interface is clear. Not seeing that with Ozone.
I don't own either product, what am I missing?
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 12:24:53
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Fabfilter is amazing. Not only is the interface clean and intuitive, it's some of the best sounding effects out there. Ozone is more of a mastering suite.
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 12:25:41
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☄ Helpfulby Vastman 2016/09/14 23:58:30
I wouldn't say that Ozone is better then Fabfilter... Ozone is a Mastering Tool containing all the tools necessary to Master, EQ, Compressor, MB Compressor, Exciter, Stereo Imaging, etc in a single "host"...Ozone Advanced will let you use these things "individually" and has more advanced algorithms... Fabfilter is all separate...you would have to buy ALL of these components and build your own "Mastering Chain", i.e. Pro Q2, Pro C2, Pro MB, Pro L, Saturn, or whatever... So, while I LOVE FF's gui's...they are AWESOME...it's all a matter of what you want. I do believe that FF's components are better then Ozone...
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 12:29:41
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So from what I see the main disadvantage with FF is the cost? Seems like all the FF componets would cover what Ozone does?
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 12:41:07
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Doktor Avalanche So from what I see the main disadvantage with FF is the cost? Seems like all the FF componets would cover what Ozone does?
Yes...especially at the moment...but they do have sales...
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 14:50:58
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cclarry Ozone is a Mastering Tool containing all the tools necessary to Master, EQ, Compressor, MB Compressor, Exciter, Stereo Imaging, etc in a single "host"...Ozone Advanced will let you use these things "individually" and has more advanced algorithms...
So if you'd use those Ozone components individually, even for mixing, why would one still need Alloy 2 ?
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 15:01:51
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☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2015/09/29 15:12:38
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cclarry Ozone is a Mastering Tool containing all the tools necessary to Master, EQ, Compressor, MB Compressor, Exciter, Stereo Imaging, etc in a single "host"...Ozone Advanced will let you use these things "individually" and has more advanced algorithms...
So if you'd use those Ozone components individually, even for mixing, why would one still need Alloy 2 ?
I guess because it's an "all in one" mixing tool? And it's essentially different then Ozone... Why do we NEED any of this stuff? LOL
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 15:03:37
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/09/29 15:12:45
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Why do we NEED any of this stuff? LOL
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 15:05:08
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☄ Helpfulby glennstanton 2016/09/15 09:23:36
Speaking of which...I just got me Serial #'s for The Izotope Music Production Suite... all installed..
And I have to say it's worth every penny...
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 15:13:17
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☄ Helpfulby SF_Green 2016/09/15 02:27:27
Ozone vs. FabFilter - I use both, but for different things. Limiter: I tend to use Ozone's limiter for the easy projects that don't call for a lot of master bus manipulation. Throw it on, quickly dial in a threshold while watching SPAN's K-14 meter and you're done. Pro-L, OTOH, is capable of more clinical tweaking. That's my choice for individual tracks and sub-busses, and for more aggressive and louder styles. Its Dynamic mode is awesome for drum busses. If had to choose one over the other, it'd be Pro-L, but not by much. Exciter: FabFilter's answer to Ozone's exciter module is Saturn, which is more versatile if you want severe distortion but isn't nearly as good as Ozone for more subtle applications. Even in projects where I'm using all FabFilter stuff on the master, there'll still be an instance of Ozone just for the exciter. Multi-band compressor: I haven't used Ozone's multiband compressor for a long time, but I like it better than Pro-MB despite the latter's beautiful UI. At any rate, these days I'll use Meldaproduction's MDynamicEQ rather than a multiband anyway, so neither Ozone nor FabFilter wins this round. I haven't used the new dynamic EQ in Ozone, but it looks a lot like Pro-MB, and Melda's UI is a lot easier to use than either of them. Equalizer: Ozone's excellent EQ has a slight edge on the master bus, but Pro-Q (now Pro-Q2) beats it on individual tracks and submixes. Ozone has the spectrum-matching feature, but I don't use it. Mainly, I like Ozone for the Critical Band view, very handy for mastering. However, I still have to give this round to FabFilter because Pro-Q is lightweight enough to use on anything, with as many instances as you like. Ozone's too demanding for use on tracks, which is why they sell Alloy, which is kind of an "Ozone Lite". Imager: FabFilter doesn't have a product to match Ozone's stereo manipulator, so this is a bonus when you get Ozone over FF. Price: Ozone is a better bang for the buck, being $350 for multiple effects versus $500 for FabFilter's Mastering Bundle (Pro-C + Pro-Q + Pro-L + Pro-MB). Ergonomics: FabFilter's UIs are among the very best in the industry. Controls are consistently implemented between products. Multiple screen sizes. GPU acceleration makes controls move smoothly during playback. Ozone is dark and monotone. FF wins the beauty contest hands-down. CPU Efficiency: No contest. FabFilter beats most products on the market in this regard. Quality: Tie. Nobody knows audio better than iZotope. Nobody works harder to please their customers than FabFilter. Support: Both are good, but FabFilter gets the nod here because the developers actively communicate with their customers via their forum. Ask them a question and you'll get a quick reply from the guy who wrote the code. Ask for a feature request and they'll tell you yay or nay. iZotope, OTOH, just says "that's the way it is, live with it". Summation: Although Ozone is a better buy specifically for mastering, FabFilter wins this contest overall, being appropriate for every stage of production.
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 15:34:08
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 15:38:08
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bitflipper Ozone vs. FabFilter - I use both, but for different things. Limiter: I tend to use Ozone's limiter for the easy projects that don't call for a lot of master bus manipulation. Throw it on, quickly dial in a threshold while watching SPAN's K-14 meter and you're done. Pro-L, OTOH, is capable of more clinical tweaking. That's my choice for individual tracks and sub-busses, and for more aggressive and louder styles. Its Dynamic mode is awesome for drum busses. If had to choose one over the other, it'd be Pro-L, but not by much. Exciter: FabFilter's answer to Ozone's exciter module is Saturn, which is more versatile if you want severe distortion but isn't nearly as good as Ozone for more subtle applications. Even in projects where I'm using all FabFilter stuff on the master, there'll still be an instance of Ozone just for the exciter. Multi-band compressor: I haven't used Ozone's multiband compressor for a long time, but I like it better than Pro-MB despite the latter's beautiful UI. At any rate, these days I'll use Meldaproduction's MDynamicEQ rather than a multiband anyway, so neither Ozone nor FabFilter wins this round. I haven't used the new dynamic EQ in Ozone, but it looks a lot like Pro-MB, and Melda's UI is a lot easier to use than either of them. Equalizer: Ozone's excellent EQ has a slight edge on the master bus, but Pro-Q (now Pro-Q2) beats it on individual tracks and submixes. Ozone has the spectrum-matching feature, but I don't use it. Mainly, I like Ozone for the Critical Band view, very handy for mastering. However, I still have to give this round to FabFilter because Pro-Q is lightweight enough to use on anything, with as many instances as you like. Ozone's too demanding for use on tracks, which is why they sell Alloy, which is kind of an "Ozone Lite". Imager: FabFilter doesn't have a product to match Ozone's stereo manipulator, so this is a bonus when you get Ozone over FF. Price: Ozone is a better bang for the buck, being $350 for multiple effects versus $500 for FabFilter's Mastering Bundle (Pro-C + Pro-Q + Pro-L + Pro-MB). Ergonomics: FabFilter's UIs are among the very best in the industry. Controls are consistently implemented between products. Multiple screen sizes. GPU acceleration makes controls move smoothly during playback. Ozone is dark and monotone. FF wins the beauty contest hands-down. CPU Efficiency: No contest. FabFilter beats most products on the market in this regard. Quality: Tie. Nobody knows audio better than iZotope. Nobody works harder to please their customers than FabFilter. Support: Both are good, but FabFilter gets the nod here because the developers actively communicate with their customers via their forum. Ask them a question and you'll get a quick reply from the guy who wrote the code. Ask for a feature request and they'll tell you yay or nay. iZotope, OTOH, just says "that's the way it is, live with it". Summation: Although Ozone is a better buy specifically for mastering, FabFilter wins this contest overall, being appropriate for every stage of production.
That's a much more in depth analysis...thanks Bit
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 16:16:19
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+1 Thus far I've gone with all Fab... got most their stuff now, and loyalty discounts on top of their recent sales have been huge... mixes are getting so much better... Will wait till BF/Xmas to even consider iZo's bundles... last year they were heavily discounted. Do I need it? Probably not... will I get it? I hope I can resist. But for final limiting and maximizing output levels nothing's touched IK's new Stealth Limiter... it is truly amazing
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 16:57:52
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bitflipper Ozone vs. FabFilter - I use both, but for different things. Limiter: I tend to use Ozone's limiter for the easy projects that don't call for a lot of master bus manipulation. Throw it on, quickly dial in a threshold while watching SPAN's K-14 meter and you're done. Pro-L, OTOH, is capable of more clinical tweaking. That's my choice for individual tracks and sub-busses, and for more aggressive and louder styles. Its Dynamic mode is awesome for drum busses. If had to choose one over the other, it'd be Pro-L, but not by much. Exciter: FabFilter's answer to Ozone's exciter module is Saturn, which is more versatile if you want severe distortion but isn't nearly as good as Ozone for more subtle applications. Even in projects where I'm using all FabFilter stuff on the master, there'll still be an instance of Ozone just for the exciter. Multi-band compressor: I haven't used Ozone's multiband compressor for a long time, but I like it better than Pro-MB despite the latter's beautiful UI. At any rate, these days I'll use Meldaproduction's MDynamicEQ rather than a multiband anyway, so neither Ozone nor FabFilter wins this round. I haven't used the new dynamic EQ in Ozone, but it looks a lot like Pro-MB, and Melda's UI is a lot easier to use than either of them. Equalizer: Ozone's excellent EQ has a slight edge on the master bus, but Pro-Q (now Pro-Q2) beats it on individual tracks and submixes. Ozone has the spectrum-matching feature, but I don't use it. Mainly, I like Ozone for the Critical Band view, very handy for mastering. However, I still have to give this round to FabFilter because Pro-Q is lightweight enough to use on anything, with as many instances as you like. Ozone's too demanding for use on tracks, which is why they sell Alloy, which is kind of an "Ozone Lite". Imager: FabFilter doesn't have a product to match Ozone's stereo manipulator, so this is a bonus when you get Ozone over FF. Price: Ozone is a better bang for the buck, being $350 for multiple effects versus $500 for FabFilter's Mastering Bundle (Pro-C + Pro-Q + Pro-L + Pro-MB). Ergonomics: FabFilter's UIs are among the very best in the industry. Controls are consistently implemented between products. Multiple screen sizes. GPU acceleration makes controls move smoothly during playback. Ozone is dark and monotone. FF wins the beauty contest hands-down. CPU Efficiency: No contest. FabFilter beats most products on the market in this regard. Quality: Tie. Nobody knows audio better than iZotope. Nobody works harder to please their customers than FabFilter. Support: Both are good, but FabFilter gets the nod here because the developers actively communicate with their customers via their forum. Ask them a question and you'll get a quick reply from the guy who wrote the code. Ask for a feature request and they'll tell you yay or nay. iZotope, OTOH, just says "that's the way it is, live with it". Summation: Although Ozone is a better buy specifically for mastering, FabFilter wins this contest overall, being appropriate for every stage of production.
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 17:16:15
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Some great stuff here thanks. Some of you really need to get into blogging it's all well written, clear and useful. Maybe you could make a buck.
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/09/29 17:25:29
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 18:14:39
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/09/29 19:17:12
dmbaer Dave, does this mean you've got your internet access back and fully operational?
Can't imagine typing that on my phone...now, as to whether I am fully operational, that remains to be seen. Last I checked I'm still getting older.
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 20:27:34
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The Bit Man has done his usual exemplary job in comparing these two suites. One thing I'd disagree with is the ease-of-use comment under the Multiband heading -- to me, FF wins by a mile, trouncing everything, ESPECIALLY Melda plugs, whose GUIs I don't particularly care for. YMMV. Anyway, Pro-MB sets the standard for multiband compressor functionality and performance, IMHO. Couple other minor quibbles / clarifications: Pro-Q2 has an EQ matching feature that is way easier to use than the one in Ozone, and Ozone's Imaging functions can be more-or-less achieved using FF's M/S mode. I like iZotope's stuff in general, but the CPU hit, among other issues, keeps me from using it very much. Ozone 5 is still my all-time champion CPU hog when its reverb is engaged, and still very hungry otherwise. FF is amazingly efficient by comparison. One more thing: Saturn is VERY flexible and deep, and is well-suited for subtle enhancing as well as all-out mangling. As you can probably tell, I'm a FabFilter fan. They're one of the VERY few developers who do everything right IME, from the best GUIs in the business, to rock-solid stability, to quick and easy installation. I'd advise demoing these two fine vendors' offerings against each other before jumping on the (admittedly tempting) iZotope deal. Cheers, Eddie
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/29 21:43:33
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Thanks Eddie for this second take.
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/30 10:11:46
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One thing I'd disagree with is the ease-of-use comment under the Multiband heading -- to me, FF wins by a mile, trouncing everything, ESPECIALLY Melda plugs, whose GUIs I don't particularly care for. I figured there'd be some raised eyebrows over my assertion that ANY Melda plugin might be easier to use than something from FabFilter. After all, we're talking about some of the most intimidating UIs versus what are arguably the most accessible. But I stand by my position: in this specific case, MDynamicEQ really is easier to use than Pro-MB. That conclusion wasn't reached easily, either. I, too, am a fan of everything FabFilter and was stubbornly reluctant to give up on Pro-MB. But time and time again, dialing in Pro-MB was a struggle while MDynamicEQ was set-and-forget.
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/30 10:15:24
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bitflipper
dmbaer Dave, does this mean you've got your internet access back and fully operational?
Can't imagine typing that on my phone...now, as to whether I am fully operational, that remains to be seen. Last I checked I'm still getting older.
When you stop getting older it's time to get nervous.
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2015/09/30 16:28:19
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One thing I do like is that FF has a Total bundle which has all their plugins. It looks like that is what I'm going to pick up this winter since I need to update mine anyway to the new V2 plugs. I was looking at picking up the Izotope Advanced plugins as well but I don't like what they are doing with their marketing and splitting up things like RX which should be inclusive in one plugin.
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2016/09/14 22:52:02
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Got the Total Bundle for my Bach project. This world of FabFilter is indeed wonderful.
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2016/09/14 23:38:56
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Fleer
cclarry
Why do we NEED any of this stuff? LOL
Because King Larry is our sovereign and we are but his humble servants.
Fleer, u'll love um...
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2016/09/15 00:51:05
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I know, I know, late to the party, but I'm here.
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2016/09/15 00:53:45
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wanking on the hollo O2 set... makin' multies... ya gotta go there... wait! no Omnisphere listed? FLEER!!!!!!!
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2016/09/15 00:57:34
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It's there, V-man, under Spectrasonics. And those sweet Skippy MegaMagic pads. But now I'll have to get myself closer to Keyscape :)
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2016/09/15 01:03:14
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Ah.... you gotta collection there! btw...I'm noticing huge improvements in O2 multithreading while working on a Hollo Multi... distribution is across the map... amazing... first time I've seen my other cores working together... is this improvement Sonar or Omnisphere? I'm on spectrasonic's site right now...don't see it clearly mentioned but... It's nothing short of phenomenal... never seen the 12 threads working like this before...NEVER!!! Sorry, went way off topic here...
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2016/09/15 02:13:35
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bitflipper
One thing I'd disagree with is the ease-of-use comment under the Multiband heading -- to me, FF wins by a mile, trouncing everything, ESPECIALLY Melda plugs, whose GUIs I don't particularly care for. I figured there'd be some raised eyebrows over my assertion that ANY Melda plugin might be easier to use than something from FabFilter. After all, we're talking about some of the most intimidating UIs versus what are arguably the most accessible. But I stand by my position: in this specific case, MDynamicEQ really is easier to use than Pro-MB. That conclusion wasn't reached easily, either. I, too, am a fan of everything FabFilter and was stubbornly reluctant to give up on Pro-MB. But time and time again, dialing in Pro-MB was a struggle while MDynamicEQ was set-and-forget.
Damn you, Dave! You're going to get me to buy MDynamicEQ yet! And it was you who turned me on to FF in the first place. I sincerely hope you're getting a decent commission from both companies! BTW, your analysis of Ozone vs. FF was pretty much spot on. Well done...as always.
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2016/09/15 09:28:11
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Yes, Dave's comparison was spot on indeed. Couldn't get it out of my head. Had to get FF since I read it. The man's a devil in disguise. Edith adds: btw, FF MB is on sale at AudioDeluxe.
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Re: Fab filter vs Ozone.
2016/09/15 09:37:49
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Fleer Yes, Dave's comparison was spot on indeed. Couldn't get it out of my head. Had to get FF since I read it. The man's a devil in disguise.
Edith adds: btw, FF MB is on sale at AudioDeluxe.
NOT without a link young Padawan... https://audiodeluxe.com/products/fabfilter-pro-mb $144.95
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