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Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
Hey all. Here's a song I have spent entirely too much time screwing around with. A Steely Dan-inspired track that reminds me how much I have lost my singing voice. Went for their cryptic lyrics and signature tasty licks. Kinda/sorta pulled it off. Mix critiques welcome. https://soundcloud.com/hammertoe/sanity-frowns
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/11 18:51:35
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LOL! You so nailed Steely with quite a bit of this. Sounded good, James. Some interesting parts coming and going on this. Mix sounded fine to me. The only thing I caught was sometimes the horns seemed to just take over...which I love. I'm a horn prostitute....grew up on early Chicago, but at times your horns just seemed to lightly bury some of the other instruments. That's ok though....we need them to hit hard once in a while. :) I think I might have compressed them just a little more or ran some tighter automation. Loved the track though, just a minor subjectivity. :)
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/11 20:37:59
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/12 10:39:36
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Nice one James. You really did get the style down, and, in spots, you even sound like The Don! Regards, Dan
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/12 10:58:42
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My hat's off to you, sir, totally ballsy to pull this off. Degree of difficulty adds extra points . . . There is so much going on in your mix (I can see why this took you a while) that it's hard to pinpoint a comment! I think your vocals work in the Dan style, but the more you push that envelope, the more selective their appeal will get. Which is to say, Fagen won't pay the bills. So what . . . you do a very credible emulation of his style and arrangement! I think your guitar in spots comes through a bit thin in the mix - I dunno maybe 3:01 area, I'd like to hear those excellent riffs a little louder. I listened to this three times, liked it better each time. Holy crap that's a monumental arrangement job! Well done, and it reminded me of the Dan meets Rush, with the proggy meter change-ups. way cool. -Tom
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/12 11:29:58
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Excellent Steely Dan Emulation. I thought you got Fagan to sing it when the 1st verse started:) The only thing that I could remotely think of to push this to the next level of perfection is if you got some female studio singers to add some dimension to the BGV parts but, wow, excellent work. One other thing, I would push the chromatic guitar fill at around 3:24 up a hair to match the level of the previous riff.
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/12 11:47:39
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Very cool - sounds like you had tons of fun
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/12 12:28:48
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Excellent piece of work there, James. You totally nailed the vibe, and you get extra points for difficulty!
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/12 12:41:05
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Nice! I really wanted to hate it, too, been a Dan fan since I was 9 and asked my mom what all instruments were being played in reeling in the years - she didn't know, lol. It's been a lifetime of discovery...
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/12 13:15:06
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Another James piece with a fun arrangement, quality production and the vibe of Steely Dan, nicely pulled off James worth a I think.
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/15 14:09:21
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Danny Danzi LOL! You so nailed Steely with quite a bit of this. Sounded good, James. Some interesting parts coming and going on this. Mix sounded fine to me. The only thing I caught was sometimes the horns seemed to just take over...which I love. I'm a horn prostitute....grew up on early Chicago, but at times your horns just seemed to lightly bury some of the other instruments. That's ok though....we need them to hit hard once in a while. :) I think I might have compressed them just a little more or ran some tighter automation. Loved the track though, just a minor subjectivity. :) I love me some horns too (with the sax being the only other instrument other than guitar I had some formal training on) Thanks Danny.
emeraldsoul My hat's off to you, sir, totally ballsy to pull this off. Degree of difficulty adds extra points . . . There is so much going on in your mix (I can see why this took you a while) that it's hard to pinpoint a comment! I think your vocals work in the Dan style, but the more you push that envelope, the more selective their appeal will get. Which is to say, Fagen won't pay the bills. So what . . . you do a very credible emulation of his style and arrangement! I think your guitar in spots comes through a bit thin in the mix - I dunno maybe 3:01 area, I'd like to hear those excellent riffs a little louder. I listened to this three times, liked it better each time. Holy crap that's a monumental arrangement job! Well done, and it reminded me of the Dan meets Rush, with the proggy meter change-ups. way cool. -Tom
I think I might have worked more on this tune than I have the last four put together. What a mess! The arrangement was a real PITA. markno999 Excellent Steely Dan Emulation. I thought you got Fagan to sing it when the 1st verse started:) The only thing that I could remotely think of to push this to the next level of perfection is if you got some female studio singers to add some dimension to the BGV parts but, wow, excellent work. One other thing, I would push the chromatic guitar fill at around 3:24 up a hair to match the level of the previous riff.
I did get my wife's cousin to sing some parts bt she didn't really work out too well...she's buried in the mix
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/15 17:42:12
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Sanity Frowns was nice. It reminded me of Barry Manilow... just kidding To be honest it is not the kind of music I could listen to for hours but I listened to this one till the last second. I dont know how to put it there was something in it that cought me... dont know what... so it is a "surprisingly" nice one .
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/16 14:06:11
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Very intricate piece of work James, hats off to you. There is plenty of SD in there, but you divert from the Dan groove into Zappa territory I think. Not a crit, I enjoyed it whatever the influences.
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/16 17:54:20
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James, Prodigious simulation of SD songwriting, playing, singing, recording. The vocal sound & phrasing, Fender Rhodes, and GTR are very close to the original. Apparently you have internalized their entire catalog. I have no idea how you did it, Cheers, Bert
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/16 18:37:32
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Glad you listened all the way through!
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/16 18:53:24
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Bert Guy James, Prodigious simulation of SD songwriting, playing, singing, recording. The vocal sound & phrasing, Fender Rhodes, and GTR are very close to the original. Apparently you have internalized their entire catalog. I have no idea how you did it, Cheers, Bert
There's a ton of SD songs mashed in my mind with this track: Peg with my Michael McDonald-esqe bgvocals in the chorus My Old School with the lyrics Reelin in the Years with the guitar vamps Hey Nineteen verse melody I spent an extraordinary amount of time on this tune. Probably too many stop/starts but those transitions are too cool to avoid.
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/16 19:19:56
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jamesg1213 Very intricate piece of work James, hats off to you. There is plenty of SD in there, but you divert from the Dan groove into Zappa territory I think. Not a crit, I enjoyed it whatever the influences.
Thanks J. It isn't a pure SD track so I get what you're saying.
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/16 20:43:43
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Wow ...what everyone said....and I was gonna add the Zappa kudo's if not mentioned as was....very cool n inspiring stuff ...thx for that....I love SDan as well....very cool homage
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/18 08:06:07
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Exceptional piece of music. There's so much to like here. You certainly got the Steely Dan groove going and yeah, there's some Frank Zappa influence in there too. Nicely melded together. Stuff like that excursion at 1:24.... BRILLIANT!!!!! I love the melody lines that are dissonant and going to places you as a listener are not expecting. It's nice to hear some melody that's unpredictable. I loved the pauses and the timing sidebar trips.... I mentioned 1:24.... but heck... that's just one of the many tasty tidbits scattered throughout the music. I'd venture to say this is your best one yet. Especially from the creative aspect. Slammed that one over the centerfold fence....
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/19 18:16:10
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BASSJOKER Wow ...what everyone said....and I was gonna add the Zappa kudo's if not mentioned as was....very cool n inspiring stuff ...thx for that....I love SDan as well....very cool homage
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/19 18:17:56
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Guitarhacker Exceptional piece of music. There's so much to like here. You certainly got the Steely Dan groove going and yeah, there's some Frank Zappa influence in there too. Nicely melded together. Stuff like that excursion at 1:24.... BRILLIANT!!!!! I love the melody lines that are dissonant and going to places you as a listener are not expecting. It's nice to hear some melody that's unpredictable. I loved the pauses and the timing sidebar trips.... I mentioned 1:24.... but heck... that's just one of the many tasty tidbits scattered throughout the music. I'd venture to say this is your best one yet. Especially from the creative aspect. Slammed that one over the centerfold fence....
Wow Herb. That' some heavy praise coming from you. I appreciate your taking a listen.
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/22 11:13:27
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BUMPED because Herb liked it a lot!
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/22 15:30:50
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fantastic piece of work, no idea about Steely Dan but do get some of the melodic Zappa vibe, great playing on everything, i think the only little thing i noticed was sometimes a noticeable change in vocal volume going from solo voice to multi-tracked. you really are amazingly talented
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/23 16:36:46
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mgh fantastic piece of work, no idea about Steely Dan but do get some of the melodic Zappa vibe, great playing on everything, i think the only little thing i noticed was sometimes a noticeable change in vocal volume going from solo voice to multi-tracked. you really are amazingly talented
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/23 17:13:26
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jamesyoyo BUMPED because Herb liked it a lot!
An I'm just plain chopped liver.
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/24 15:09:11
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bapu
jamesyoyo BUMPED because Herb liked it a lot!
An I'm just plain chopped liver.
Nah, you're more of a Pâté
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/08/30 20:00:10
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This song rocks, got that steely Dan feel to it. Killer guitar, great vocals
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Re: Factory Yoyo presents: Sanity Frowns
2016/09/01 12:35:17
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This is one of my favorite songs of yours since "Sabinosa". You have a creative gift and so much talent! Thanks for letting me hear it in its infancy.
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