Fade in/out

I want to fade in and out of a complete song. All the tracks are midis controlling outboard modules
 
The option "process" > "apply effect" comes up ok, but the "fade/enevolope" I want to use is greyed out - as in fact are all the apply effect options.
 
I've selected the the track and highlighted the section to fade, but no joy.
 
I had thought I could fade in/out the entire piece if the tracks were all selected  but nope!
 
What am I doing wrong here or is there another way to fade out the whole piece?????
 
 
 
 

I would just stick a volume envelope on your master buss and be done with it.

I use bounce to tracks then face the new clip.

Can I just share with you why I think recording separate audio tracks of MIDI "performances" is a good idea?
 
Quite a few years ago now, before the advent of "virtual synths" and DAW's, I started to build up my MIDI system. I used Cakewalk (with no audio capabilities at all) to drive all my synths and I the only thing I had at the time to record the output was Sound Forge.
 
So, I would set my song in motion and record the whole thing in one go, running everything through a small mixer and into my PC audio in.
 
I thought it was okay at the time. But, as I more recently started to learn, with the help of Peeps here, I realised that what I had recorded was pretty crap, not just composition wise, but audio too.
 
I have since tried to go back and re-record and re-master some of the better pieces, but, alas, the memory backup battery of my Roland JP-8000 had run right down and after replacing it I had lost all of my presets (yeah, I know, I could have backed those up but I didn't) and the ribbon controller had failed, and I have not been able to replicate a lot of the sounds I used.
 
Now that I have Sonar, and I am also starting to go back to using some of my hardware, once I am happy with how a MIDI track sounds, I record the audio. I keep the MIDI, though, and I can go back and re-record something if needs be.
 
This way, I can concentrate on the composition first and then once that is complete I can do any necessary EQ adjustments on the audio track and apply any fades/automation.
 
And, if I learn new techniques, and feel I want to improve a mix, I can do so regardless of whether or not my hardware still works.
 
 
cheers
 
andy

soens
The Process menu is for Audio tracks. I believe if all you have is midi tracks controlling outboard synths, a bus fade won't work because the synths are playing thru your interface, which is also outside Sonar. For Sonar to manipulate the synth outputs they need to be recorded into Sonar on an audio track and sent to the Master Bus with an automation envelope.
 
Or you can apply cc11 controllers to the end of all your midi tracks as mentioned above.

The synths need to be fed back into Sonar, to an audio track.  You could then route those to a bus with an automated fader on it.