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2005/08/27 21:18:07 (permalink)

Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed !

Has anyone found a fix for the hum problem on the $99 Oktava MKL 2500 microphone they are selling at Guitar Center ?
post edited by ohhey - 2005/08/28 03:11:25
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fix ? 2005/08/27 22:00:25 (permalink)
    My buddy bought 3 of them. He seems to think it is a grounding problem with the PS. He also thinks the multicore plug that connects to the mic might not be a good match, the pins are too short and narrow to match with the mic. He is going to fool around with it over the next few days. He said he will change the ends on the PS to mic cable to neutriks and see if they mate better. He may also connect another ground line to one of the unused pins. He says the PS is of good design and parts with good solder joints, so he is going to try some mods to the cable and ends.

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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fix ? 2005/08/27 23:40:39 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: LixiSoft

    My buddy bought 3 of them. He seems to think it is a grounding problem with the PS. He also thinks the multicore plug that connects to the mic might not be a good match, the pins are too short and narrow to match with the mic. He is going to fool around with it over the next few days. He said he will change the ends on the PS to mic cable to neutriks and see if they mate better. He may also connect another ground line to one of the unused pins. He says the PS is of good design and parts with good solder joints, so he is going to try some mods to the cable and ends.


    Here is a clue ! If I touch the XLR case (unpainted thumb lock push button) on the mic end directly to a grounded part of the mixer like the edge of a 1/4" jack the hum goes away.

    I tried scraping some pait off the PS case where the transformer is bloted down and took some paint off the edge of the case by one of the scew holes and on the inside of the lid at the same spot and there is good connection to all parts of the PS case and to PIN 1 on the XLR so it's not a shield problem there, maybe the mic case is not getting to the shield.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/08/28 00:31:59 (permalink)
    Ok, here's the deal. The XLR on the mic end doesn't have a good connection from the outer shield around the pins to the shield on the cable. The way it's made there is no direct connection so it has to go through the spring loaded push button assembly. The only problem is that as soon as the catch goes into the mic the button gets pushed down (away from the shell) and you lose the connection to the cable shield.

    Here is one fix I came up with. Just make a tiny jumper out of wire and solder it to one of the tabs on the shell (I ran mine under the shell for clearance) and then solder that to the shield on the cable. Here is a photo.

    http://webpages.charter.net/coffeys/fakemkl2500humfix.jpg

    No more hum !!

    NEW NOTE !! You also need to switch the 110/220 switch the other way, it's backward..
    post edited by ohhey - 2005/09/10 03:18:42
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/08/28 05:44:04 (permalink)
    No more hum !!


    Great News !!! No with my luck I'll go back to GC and they will be sold out. So how do you think the mic sounds ? Keeper ?

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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/08/28 12:49:19 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: LixiSoft

    No more hum !!


    Great News !!! No with my luck I'll go back to GC and they will be sold out. So how do you think the mic sounds ? Keeper ?



    It sounds good to me, it's not overly birght like most of the condensors I have, so it's a keeper just for being different. I think it has a real vintage sound like a mic that is real old and has lost a bit of high end. On vocals it doesn't pick up all the mouth spit crackle like some mics do, just the part you want for the mic. I think it would be perfect for high pitched stuff like mandolin and fiddle where you don't want it to get too harsh. I would rather have a mic with less highs then have to EQ.

    I'm going back to get a second one as soon as they open... tick tick..

    By the way here are some photos of the guts..

    http://webpages.charter.net/coffeys/mkl2500close.jpg
    http://webpages.charter.net/coffeys/mkl2500head.jpg
    http://webpages.charter.net/coffeys/mkl2500ps.jpg
    http://webpages.charter.net/coffeys/mkl2500psinside.jpg
    post edited by ohhey - 2005/08/28 12:55:23
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/08/28 14:59:43 (permalink)
    I'm still going to make a new cable for the two I have. The cable that comes with the mic is not good. I'd like to have the signal pair shielded and larger wires for the tube power lines.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/08/28 17:25:08 (permalink)
    LOL....the "Ohhey Mod" I love it !! Thanks for the heads up on the fix. My buddy used your fix to cure his 3 of the "hum" issue !! As a result of your fix, I went back to GC this mornining and picked up a pair of them for myself,.....THANKS !!

    As a side note, I "****ed" to the manager at GC about their crappy QC on the mics, and how all of them would have to be "fixed". He said for every one I bought he would throw in the MXL 2 mic special to "cover" my repair costs !! So I got 6 mics for $208.00.

    2 MKL 2500
    and 2 sets of the MXL Large and Small condenser special sale
    I am floored with the deal.

    He said they lost money on the sale, and I believe him.

    Once again Frank....thanks for the fix and the pics !!!

    The "Ohhey mod" ROCKS !!!

    I am just a mic slut, and a tube slut at that !!!
    post edited by LixiSoft - 2005/08/28 17:41:14

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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/08/28 18:17:07 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: daniel5017@aol.com

    hey ohhey

    i don't mean to hijack your highly useful/helpful thread but...

    curiosity triggered by the behavior and usefulness of the oktava mic, have you had any experience using small diaphragm condensors on vocals? i don't own any, nor have i directly tried them out; only as a third party casual observation.. from what i remember, the one observed picked up high frequencies better than the large diaphragm that day.

    bottom line, if any of them are overall anything like oktava mic, then i would want to try them it out.

    thanks in advance(if you are helpful )


    I have not used a small diaphram condensor on vocals before. It should work just fine but you will want to stay back and off axis a bit because they will pick up blasts of air on "p" and "b" phonics and make a loud thump in the audio. They are great for Choir and background singers where you have some distance between the singers and the mic.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/08/28 18:19:26 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: LixiSoft

    LOL....the "Ohhey Mod" I love it !! Thanks for the heads up on the fix. My buddy used your fix to cure his 3 of the "hum" issue !! As a result of your fix, I went back to GC this mornining and picked up a pair of them for myself,.....THANKS !!

    As a side note, I "****ed" to the manager at GC about their crappy QC on the mics, and how all of them would have to be "fixed". He said for every one I bought he would throw in the MXL 2 mic special to "cover" my repair costs !! So I got 6 mics for $208.00.

    2 MKL 2500
    and 2 sets of the MXL Large and Small condenser special sale
    I am floored with the deal.

    He said they lost money on the sale, and I believe him.

    Once again Frank....thanks for the fix and the pics !!!

    The "Ohhey mod" ROCKS !!!

    I am just a mic slut, and a tube slut at that !!!


    I didn't get any deal.. darn it. But they did talk me into buying an MXL 2001 for $69 and gave me the 990/991 set free with that. So I got 4 mics for under $200. Even if I don't find I use for them I can get enough to pay for the entire shopping trip on e-bay LOL !
    So the second tube mic might be free !

    By the way you could hardly call my deal a "mod", more like a hack. I think I'm going to get Mogami W3172 and some nutrick ends and make some "real" tube mic cables.
    post edited by ohhey - 2005/08/28 18:26:35
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/08/28 18:54:22 (permalink)
    By the way.. what position should the 110/220 switch be in.. is the label on the case correct ? It's confusing the label on the switch says 220 when in the 110 position.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/08/31 20:09:12 (permalink)
    I've been looking all over for a forum that talked about these mics. I just picked up 3 of them (one for myself and 2 for a friend) and I believe i came up on the most bazzar bunch that any GC had. First off, all three microphones used the 7 pin xlr connection (not bazzar), but the cable they provided for all three mics had a 7 pin male xlr on one end and a 6 pin female xlr on the other (very bazzar)! These cables wont even connect the mic and power supply. I can make a cable no problem, im not worried about that, but im a little confused about the pinouts for the cable because they jimmyrigged the 6pin somehow and i can't infer how to transfer that to a 7pin connector. Will one of you guys send me a schematic for the pinout? Also, do you guys suggest i purchase good quality cable and just construct my own? I don't know if its safe to trust their work if they can't even put the right connectors on the damn thing. Now let's move onto bazzar find #2. I checked out the pictures you posted, ohhey, and i was surprised (i don't know why, it's oktava we're talking about) that your mic is drastically different than mine. Instead of what seems to be circuit board where your capsule is mounted to, my version uses a metal plate. Then, it hit me... the capsule in your mic is the same capsule that is used on the MK-319 and MK-219!!! Wait until you see what mine looks like. Not only is the diaphram a considerable amount smaller, but it does not have the shield covering it. Finally, the mic casing has a russian character that is different than my standard english text casing plus yours is actually the legit matte black finish where mine is some weird ass grey color. Between me and you, i think you lucked out and got a Russian verison. Mine is Chinese to the Max. Did yours come with documentation at all, or no docs and the grey black case with the Oktava logo sticker? I wonder how many like yours are out there?

    capsule front
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    6 pin xlr connector
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    tube/curcuitry
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/01 00:27:28 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: hottlungs

    I've been looking all over for a forum that talked about these mics. I just picked up 3 of them (one for myself and 2 for a friend) and I believe i came up on the most bazzar bunch that any GC had. First off, all three microphones used the 7 pin xlr connection (not bazzar), but the cable they provided for all three mics had a 7 pin male xlr on one end and a 6 pin female xlr on the other (very bazzar)! These cables wont even connect the mic and power supply. I can make a cable no problem, im not worried about that, but im a little confused about the pinouts for the cable because they jimmyrigged the 6pin somehow and i can't infer how to transfer that to a 7pin connector. Will one of you guys send me a schematic for the pinout? Also, do you guys suggest i purchase good quality cable and just construct my own? I don't know if its safe to trust their work if they can't even put the right connectors on the damn thing. Now let's move onto bazzar find #2. I checked out the pictures you posted, ohhey, and i was surprised (i don't know why, it's oktava we're talking about) that your mic is drastically different than mine. Instead of what seems to be circuit board where your capsule is mounted to, my version uses a metal plate. Then, it hit me... the capsule in your mic is the same capsule that is used on the MK-319 and MK-219!!! Wait until you see what mine looks like. Not only is the diaphram a considerable amount smaller, but it does not have the shield covering it. Finally, the mic casing has a russian character that is different than my standard english text casing plus yours is actually the legit matte black finish where mine is some weird ass grey color. Between me and you, i think you lucked out and got a Russian verison. Mine is Chinese to the Max. Did yours come with documentation at all, or no docs and the grey black case with the Oktava logo sticker? I wonder how many like yours are out there?
    ...


    Your mic is very different then mine ! But no I did not get any doco'. However the cable is the same on mine. The mic is 6 pin and the power supply is 7 pin with no connection to anything on pin 3 inside the power supply. I'll do a complete pin out and post what I have.

    Look at the mic connector and it should be 6 pin and the socket on the power supply should be 7 pin. That cable works on mine but I did have to bend the pins (gently) with my finger nail to get them to fit the sockets. This takes some time and guess work but you can get them to mate and from then on they will work.

    I think the main problem is they painted the XLR shell at the mic end on the outside and the inside so it no longer makes connection with the shield collar and the case of the mic when the catch engages. So my hack of soldering the wire from the collar to the shield wire fixes the hum problem.

    Take your time with the pins and work them gently till you get them to mate.. hua.. he he.. I said "mate".. he ha..
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/01 00:38:18 (permalink)
    Ok, you tube mic know it alls, help me out here I've traced all the wires but not sure what they do.. HELP !! I know what pair is the mic audio signal but if I make a cable I'll need to know what wires are the "heater" for the tube so I can use the heavy wires. The other thing I considered is just cuting the cable down and making it a lot shorter. Looks like making a cable is going to cost as much as the mic LOL !

    Mic side is a 6 pin XLR connector
    Power supply end is a 7 pin XLR connector
    Here is the pin out as far as I can tell.. Are mic side pins 1 and 3 the tube "heater" wires ?



    mic ---- power supply

    1 ------- 1 ------- Connects to wire on tube what is this ?
    2 ------- 4 & 7 -- Seems to be ground goes all the way to capsule center, also signal XLR pin 1
    3 ------- 2 ------ Goes through resistor to LED and to tube what is this ?
    4 ------- 5 ------ Goes through transformer all the way to signal output XLR pin 3
    5 ------- 6 ------ Goes through transformer all the way to signal output XLR pin 2
    6 ------- 3 ------ Seems to go to transformer case inside mic but not connected inside power supply !
    Shield ---- Shield (no connection to pins)



    By the way I went looking for wire and this is the best reply I got...

    Frank,
    Thanks for your inquiry. Your cost on the Mogami 3172
    cable will be $1.40 per foot, plus shipping. If you have
    any further questions or would like to place an order
    please contact me.
    Regards,
    Scott Simons
    Performance Audio
    801-466-3196 x129
    800-771-8330 x129
    ssimons@performanceaudio.com



    post edited by ohhey - 2005/09/01 00:58:35
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/01 15:32:57 (permalink)
    "Great News !!! No with my luck I'll go back to GC and they will be sold out."

    I thought GC wasn't handling Oktava stuff anymore. Somebody told me that here at this forum a month or two ago, and I visited both the GC stores in St. Louis last week and didn't see a single mic by Oktava. What's the deal?
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/01 15:38:18 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Joe Bravo

    "Great News !!! No with my luck I'll go back to GC and they will be sold out."

    I thought GC wasn't handling Oktava stuff anymore. Somebody told me that here at this forum a month or two ago, and I visited both the GC stores in St. Louis last week and didn't see a single mic by Oktava. What's the deal?


    It may just be select stores, the GCs in Dallas, Arlington, and Fort Worth Texas have had them for years off and on. I picked up 2 of the MKL 2500s at the one in Arlington Texas.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/01 18:04:47 (permalink)
    Yeah, maybe so.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/05 19:51:59 (permalink)
    So i took back the chinese MKL-2500's and picked up the last 3 in stock at another guitar center location. That took a lot of research and communication with Oktava Russia, but at least i didn't get stuck with a knock off. I did the cable grounding fix today and everything is sounding good. Eventually i am going to make my own cables for these mics, but for right now i can handle the provided cable.

    Here's a warning for all potential buyers of the MKL-2500... make sure you're not getting a fake. There are tons floating around at various GC locations so if the mic looks sketchy and has 7 pins on the mic output, pass on it. Another thing i found out through communication with Oktava Russia was the fact that the power supplies that are provided with the mic are all chinese PSU's. Russian mic, Chinese PSU... better than Chinese mic, Chinese PSU, i guess.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/05 22:53:18 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: hottlungs

    So i took back the chinese MKL-2500's and picked up the last 3 in stock at another guitar center location. That took a lot of research and communication with Oktava Russia, but at least i didn't get stuck with a knock off. I did the cable grounding fix today and everything is sounding good. Eventually i am going to make my own cables for these mics, but for right now i can handle the provided cable.

    Here's a warning for all potential buyers of the MKL-2500... make sure you're not getting a fake. There are tons floating around at various GC locations so if the mic looks sketchy and has 7 pins on the mic output, pass on it. Another thing i found out through communication with Oktava Russia was the fact that the power supplies that are provided with the mic are all chinese PSU's. Russian mic, Chinese PSU... better than Chinese mic, Chinese PSU, i guess.


    I'm still getting a little bit of 60hz hum on my two even after the cable fix. Do you think the unused pin 3 on the PS side should go to ground too ? It seems like it's connected on the mic side but not on the PS side. It's not enough to make the mic unusable but I would like to get it as quiet as I could. The hum is so low now I can take it completely out with a EQ but I'd like to fix it if I could.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/06 00:12:55 (permalink)
    Hey Everybody,

    I'm glad to have stumbled on this forum and man do you guys know your stuff!

    So....today I fell prey to the Labor Day sale at GC and I picked up the Oktava MKL 2500 for $70.00. I was siked cuz I thought I got such a great deal. Of course when I got home tonight and went to test it out I got the hum you all mentioned. SUCKAH!!

    Thing is, I'm totally new to all this stuff. I don't know jack and I've looked at all the links you have attached in the forum. I have no idea how to do anything as this is my first mic and I don't even own a soldering tool. I got a bic lighter and thats about it.

    My mic does have the 7 pins as Hotlungs mentioned and the Mic head does have the wierd Russian Lettering "MK?-2500". So I'm guessing I got a fake one.

    Should I find someone who can do the soldering for me? Would I be best to just trade this in for a different Oktava? I saw someone else on the thread recomend the 2001. Or is the 319 comparable? Or would you recommend a different mic in the same price range(Can't afford more $.)

    Just kind of lost and could use some valuable input .
    Thanks guys and thanks for the great thread.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/06 01:15:05 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Orwell247

    Hey Everybody,

    I'm glad to have stumbled on this forum and man do you guys know your stuff!

    So....today I fell prey to the Labor Day sale at GC and I picked up the Oktava MKL 2500 for $70.00. I was siked cuz I thought I got such a great deal. Of course when I got home tonight and went to test it out I got the hum you all mentioned. SUCKAH!!

    Thing is, I'm totally new to all this stuff. I don't know jack and I've looked at all the links you have attached in the forum. I have no idea how to do anything as this is my first mic and I don't even own a soldering tool. I got a bic lighter and thats about it.

    My mic does have the 7 pins as Hotlungs mentioned and the Mic head does have the wierd Russian Lettering "MK?-2500". So I'm guessing I got a fake one.

    Should I find someone who can do the soldering for me? Would I be best to just trade this in for a different Oktava? I saw someone else on the thread recomend the 2001. Or is the 319 comparable? Or would you recommend a different mic in the same price range(Can't afford more $.)

    Just kind of lost and could use some valuable input .
    Thanks guys and thanks for the great thread.


    Well.. so far "most" of the hum can be eliminated by fixing the cable. If you know a geek with a soldering iron it's a very easy fix. Frankly at $70 it's not that big a loss if you can't fix it, you could sell it as is on e-bay for more then that. However, if you need a mic to get some recording done then get the 2001 if you can get one. I've had several of those over the years included one I got last weekend at GC during the last sale. They are very fine mics and you should get it even if you get the MKL2500 going. The 319 is less useful but works for many singers if used for vocals but no where near the clearity and pro frequency of the 2001 in that price range. The MKL2500 is a nice second mic to have for the tube vocal sound but not a good choice for your only microphone. But like I said at $70 or even $99 like I paid for mine it's a steal if you can get it fixed. If you can't find a geek or electronics repair guy in your area let me know. I would be willing to fix the cable for you if you pay for shipping, won't take 10 mins. for me to do the fix.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/06 09:20:15 (permalink)
    Ok,
    so it's not only the "Ohhey Mod" it's "Ohhey God". HAHA

    Ohhey you are the man, thanks for all the info.
    I'm gonna run back to GC today and see if I can switch it up for the 2001. If not, I'll make some calls to see if I can find a Mic Geek to make the fix. And if that still doesn't work, I'll definitely take you up on your offer.

    Thanks again, I'll keep the forum posted.



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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/06 12:20:01 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Orwell247
    I'm gonna run back to GC today and see if I can switch it up for the 2001.



    FYI Guitar Center Raleigh has 3 of the fake knockoffs for $70 right now. They say $99 up front, but if you ply them with *Ohhey* info they cave.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/06 13:40:04 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Nate


    ORIGINAL: Orwell247
    I'm gonna run back to GC today and see if I can switch it up for the 2001.



    FYI Guitar Center Raleigh has 3 of the fake knockoffs for $70 right now. They say $99 up front, but if you ply them with *Ohhey* info they cave.


    LOL !! Yeah.. tell them I charge at least $20 to fix the cable.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/06 18:49:37 (permalink)



    ORIGINAL: Nate


    FYI Guitar Center Raleigh has 3 of the fake knockoffs for $70 right now. They say $99 up front, but if you ply them with *Ohhey* info they cave.


    LOL !! Yeah.. tell them I charge at least $20 to fix the cable.

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    Ha! I'll have to remember that!

    BTW, I just got back from GC. The sales reps had no idea about the fake knock offs, or at least acted like it.

    Asked around about any tech heads that might be able to do the fix. No luck.

    So we talked about trading the Oktava for the MXL 2001 or the AKG Perception 100 ($119.00).

    You guys know anything about the AKG Perception mic? I've looked around online and have only managed to fing two very very small write ups on it.

    And we actually tested both the AKG and the MXL2001 in their studio set up and the AKG actually sounded better there...but I don't have any recording experience, so wanted to hear your throughts.

    Any?

    Thanks mates.


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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/07 01:20:27 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Orwell247

    ........
    Ha! I'll have to remember that!

    BTW, I just got back from GC. The sales reps had no idea about the fake knock offs, or at least acted like it.

    Asked around about any tech heads that might be able to do the fix. No luck.

    So we talked about trading the Oktava for the MXL 2001 or the AKG Perception 100 ($119.00).

    You guys know anything about the AKG Perception mic? I've looked around online and have only managed to fing two very very small write ups on it.

    And we actually tested both the AKG and the MXL2001 in their studio set up and the AKG actually sounded better there...but I don't have any recording experience, so wanted to hear your throughts.

    Any?

    Thanks mates.



    AKG is a "can't go wrong" brand name at least in their higher end stuff. I haven't tried the 100 but I'm sure it's a great mic. If you get a chance to try them both just pick the one that's best for you. For vocals the better quality mic is not always the best choice depending on the tone you want. For example my voice is a bit nasaly so a mic that would bring a mellow voice forward in the mix would just cause my voice to sound worse and require more EQ to kill that nasal range.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/07 11:06:31 (permalink)
    AKG is a "can't go wrong" brand name at least in their higher end stuff. I haven't tried the 100 but I'm sure it's a great mic. If you get a chance to try them both just pick the one that's best for you. For vocals the better quality mic is not always the best choice depending on the tone you want. For example my voice is a bit nasaly so a mic that would bring a mellow voice forward in the mix would just cause my voice to sound worse and require more EQ to kill that nasal range.


    Cool. I'll remember that when I go to pick one of them up today. I too have a super nasaly voice so I'll take note. I probably don't want a mic that has lots of High end cuz that would only highlight my nasal qaulity, right?
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/07 11:29:12 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: Orwell247

    AKG is a "can't go wrong" brand name at least in their higher end stuff. I haven't tried the 100 but I'm sure it's a great mic. If you get a chance to try them both just pick the one that's best for you. For vocals the better quality mic is not always the best choice depending on the tone you want. For example my voice is a bit nasaly so a mic that would bring a mellow voice forward in the mix would just cause my voice to sound worse and require more EQ to kill that nasal range.


    Cool. I'll remember that when I go to pick one of them up today. I too have a super nasaly voice so I'll take note. I probably don't want a mic that has lots of High end cuz that would only highlight my nasal qaulity, right?


    The very high end is not a problem it's the mid and upper mid where you don't want a rise. The more flat the response is the better for me.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/07 11:45:13 (permalink)
    i think a lot of people are getting confused about these oktava MKL-2500 mics. The actual microphone component(if they appear like the pictures ohhey posted earlier) are legit, straight from russia, Oktava tube mics. If on the other hand, you received a mic which looks like the pictures i posted, i regret to inform you that your mic is Chinese, brother. Reguardless of that, all the power supplies, to my knowledge, are Chinese made and obviously the cables are as well(you don't think that Oktava would ship a cable with a gnarley grounding problem would you?). Anyways, I think Orwell247 was confused about his purchase. If his mic had the russian character on the casing, could be plugged in with the provided cable, and had a hum issue, then he had a Russian 2500(a Chinese PSU and a Chinese Cable). To be honest, i would take a Russian Oktava tube over an MXL tube anyday.
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    RE: Fake Oktava MKL 2500 from GC hum, fixed ! 2005/09/07 11:58:48 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: hottlungs

    .... Anyways, I think Orwell247 was confused about his purchase. If his mic had the russian character on the casing, could be plugged in with the provided cable, and had a hum issue, then he had a Russian 2500(a Chinese PSU and a Chinese Cable). To be honest, i would take a Russian Oktava tube over an MXL tube anyday.


    I don't know about that.. Russian Oktava mics can be good for some sources like vocals where it's ok for the mic to have a tone of it's own. But for other recordings I would take an MXL (tube or solid state). I think the MXL mics are well engineered and have good specs. I have several MXL mics and they have better clearity and high end then any of my Oktava mics. I like having both because clearity and bright highs are not always what you want.
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