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2014/05/12 10:51:17 (permalink)

Fall Back in Love

New song here, just finished writing this a few weeks back. Old traditional style country
 
Fall Back in Love:  https://app.box.com/s/rw0jt8qfjns4h8z0bx0p
 
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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/12 12:55:58 (permalink)
    Herb,
     
    I like it.    Your guitar fills are really nice as is the backing track as a whole.   I would like to hear the bass a bit more but otherwise no crits.   You could add some more harmonies on the chorus, maybe?   Well done.
     
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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/12 20:59:41 (permalink)
    Nice country song ! You did great on the performance and mixing as well as the recording, all sounds great to me.
    The only comments I would make is there is a little bit too much reverb on the vocal for today's standards  IMHO! However back in the 80's they were going crazy with the reverb so if you were trying to make it sound traditional you did that. It doesn't sound bad to me ,I like it, just they aren't doing it so much like that today.
      At The end during the break or pause and everything dies in volume if you could let the steel die naturally it would sound better to me. Again just my opinion. I like the song though and the vocal is nice too!

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/12 22:06:29 (permalink)
    "Old traditional style country"
     
    Wow, you really stepped out of your comfort zone on this one Herb. 
     
    Sounded good. I hope you were rocking a look like this?

    In honor of the creative risks taken here, I think I'll do a soft/pop rock cover from the 60s/70s (range!) Just pulling your leg Herb? I hope you know that. I was practicing my bass this evening and this was a nice break from it.
     
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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/12 23:24:17 (permalink)
    Sounds great Herb!  The song and production were fantastic


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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/13 07:07:17 (permalink)
    Great song, Herb! The song has a Willie Nelson vibe to it.
    The mix sounds perfect to me. The drums sound wonderfully crisp and clear. Nice heart-felt guitar work. 

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/13 07:53:44 (permalink)
    Far be it for me to critique any of your songs Guitarhacker but I feel you could have a slightly longer intro into the song. It just seemed to hit hard at the start. Maybe slide a  a little of that sweet steel in there first too. Great song, and very nicely played. Loved it. ☺

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/13 08:09:50 (permalink)
    Hi Herb, 
    your song sounds very professional in all the areas that count the most  
    Vox, guitar tones , mix , playing , song structure …all good ...
    I enjoyed listening very much  
    I think the simplest thing you can do to improve your song would be to add a little more silence before the song starts 
    it jumps in at less than a second after hitting play 
     
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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/13 09:52:04 (permalink)
    The clean lead guitar work sounds really good Herb, is that the Mesa or the Pod?  Pure Country!

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/13 12:09:36 (permalink)
    OK... let me see if I can respond to all these comments
     
    Markno999: bass, what are you listening on since I have plenty of bass not only in the studio but on the mp3 player as well.
     
    teego: thanks.... as far as todays standards.... this song isn't even in the running. It's not contemporary sounding enough. Unless it was co-written with a N-town star, and it wasn't, it will never make it past the guardians of the gates.
     
    Robby: yeah I just need to break out of the box every so often..... all that hip-hop and rap stuff I write .... I need a break with some country every now and then.   ;-) thanks for the listen... you know you loved it. BTW, I don't have sufficient hair for that pompadour look thing.....
     
    Mike: glad you enjoyed it
     
    Scotty: yeah, that Willie thing, I really am not trying to do that....clear and crisp is what I am trying to achieve. Thanks
     
    Schafe:  On intros..... I try to shoot for a short intro. Not to exceed 13 seconds max where possible. Some I do ease in with the music and others...this one, .......1,2,3,4 lets go...!!  Thanks
     
    Kenny: I do the same thing with every song.... I trim the count in off, after the last drumstick tick..... then I add 500 milliseconds (1/2 a second) of silence at the start. So you are correct when you said it starts in less than a second after hitting play. All my tunes follow this rule. On a CD, if I burned CD's, there is 2 seconds between tracks so I want the tune to start as relatively immediately as possible after the beginning of the wave. I send tunes to libraries for TV and film and they want the song to start quickly.  I'm glad you enjoyed the tune in spite of the quick startup.
     
    Mike: It's the tele on the POD with a black panel fender dialed up. Also my Taylor acoustic is in the mix.
     
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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/14 10:00:12 (permalink)
    Herb, your tune sounds great …the start up got me by surprise 
     
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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/14 12:12:41 (permalink)
    Very nice production enjoyed the whole thing nicely played, captured and presented.
     
    I do agree that by modern standards there is to much reverb on the vox but do I care, no.
     
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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/14 13:14:02 (permalink)
    Herb,
     
    Listening on my Altec Computer Speakers (have a subwoofer)  also listened at home...  The bass is OK, however, when I think of traditional country I generally think of a very low, solid bass throughout.   It does that for the most part but in certain spots it seems to pull back.   Like at :34 when you say "put my finger on it" the bass seems to fall away for a bit until about :44.   There is nothing wrong with it as is,  just a preference...
     
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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/14 21:30:45 (permalink)
    Herb, I like the way this is mixed and arranged.  Your voice sounds like gold, and the guitars are so very tasty.  Lately, I've become a fan of reverb again after some years, and that may be because reverbs are getting better all the time.  I like your use of one on this production, as it gives depth to the sound stage (which is becoming something of a lost art these days).  Congratulations on a job well done.

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/15 08:09:27 (permalink)
    Kenny: I like the way this one starts. Some I ease into, but this one told me to do it another way.....waa laa!
     
    Wookie: I'm trying my best to convert you to country music..... glad you like it, reverb and all.
     
    Mark: I'll listen to that part you mentioned next time I listen.
     
    Lynn:  Thanks.... there's really not that much reverb on this.....really. Vocally: The tracks are dry, there's a studioverb2 dark plate at around 15% in the vox buss and there may be a studioverb2 plate in the master buss set at 10% or there abouts..... that has never been a combo to add huge reverb to the mix... just enough to smooth the rough edges. 

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/15 10:11:38 (permalink)
    A very nice song Herb. I'm just a sucker for that feel. Who cares if it sounds "dated", it's about the emotion it creates. Loved it.

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/15 13:58:04 (permalink)
    Optimus:  yeah, me too, and thanks

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/16 14:54:18 (permalink)
    Wow, nice song and great arrangement - sounds just right for the style.   And +1 to the vocal and guitar comments.  Good stuff.   Is that a "real" pedal steel?
     
    Oh... and +1 to the Willy vibe - not so much in production values but the performance.
     

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/16 20:39:36 (permalink)
    Yeah, I don't hear any great big reverb wash or anything. It's not subtle, but it sure isn't overdone. Great guitars and vocals, as usual Herb. Really like the delicate guitar sound you captured in this one. Overall, well done mix.
     
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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/17 05:29:56 (permalink)
    Vocal sounds too far out in front. Sounds like Willie Nelson's cousin though so...
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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/17 08:19:12 (permalink)
    Stevec:  Thanks. The pedal steel is sampled. Country isn't country without one.....at least IMHO.
     
    Dan: Gracias for the kind words on the guitar parts and the mix.
     
    Monty:  I tend to put my vox out front intentionally. I really don't try to sound like Willie, it just comes out that way. Thanks

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/17 09:48:04 (permalink)
    Man, I thought I was listening to Willy for a minute.  Good, comfortable song, Herb.  I really enjoyed the listen.  Ok, makes me want to revisit the song we wrote "Daydream".  Time for it to live, I think.  

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/17 13:17:36 (permalink)
    Love the guitars and lead vocal.  Harmony is a little soft maybe.  Is that a soft organ in the background?  
    "Part" and "heart" sound funny with the southern accent.  Your natural voice is perfect kind of like Neil Young meets Willy.  Really nice job.

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/22 10:14:03 (permalink)
    hey Herb - really nice work on this!  mix is really good, except in my opinion you have it slammed a little hard on the compression/limiting on the master for this type of music.
     
    good balance of the instruments, tho.  great guitar work and vox. 
     
    my guess is that the steel is BIAB and the guitar is you.  what other instruments did you play?

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/22 15:51:43 (permalink)
    Warren: good to see you.... thanks
     
    Rimshot:  Yeah there's a B3 in there.... the harmonies are low on purpose. I like that style of harmony. very subtle.
    Neil meets Willie... that's a compliment to me...
     
    Reece:  All the guitars are me. The compression levels are probably more of the player in Box dot com.... the wave isn't compressed. It is typical of my other music.... lots of dynamics.   BTW: everything else there in the music is in the other box. I can send you the MP3 by email so you can hear it like it's designed to be.

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/29 00:23:42 (permalink)
         Excellent!!!!! I'm listening to this on a different PC than I normally do, so the speaker system isn't that great. Although I must say it sounds excellent on this weaker speaker system setup. 
     
    I like your music Herb, your voice has grown on me over the years, not to mention I have always really enjoyed hearing your songs and songwriting style, but I have to mention how your voice has improved so much. It reminds me of Mickey Gilley if I were to pick one artist as a comparison, and I mean that as a compliment and hope you don't take that in a bad way at all. I mean that as a compliment, there are few country artist I like to hear and Mickey Gilley is one of them.  
     
    It's been a few years Herb since I've heard your music man, WOW YOU HAVE MADE SERIOUS STRIDES IN SO MANY WAYS!!!!!!!!!!!! But I've gotta say man, you've nailed it on the mixing stuff, you've always had it together on the music side of playing in my opinion, but your mixing has gotten so much better, I hope I can do so well in the future. 
     
    GREAT TUNE MAN!!!!!!! I enjoyed hearing this very much!!!!! 
     
     
    Excellent man!!!!!!!!!!
     
     
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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/29 05:37:35 (permalink)
    Great slide guitar, who doesn't want to fall back in love again??? - Shawn
     
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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/29 12:14:49 (permalink)
    Nice job Herb. I think you reached clean and crisp. I enjoyed the song, never thought much about if the verb was a fit or not. Great guitar playing.

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/29 20:21:25 (permalink)
    Bobby: It's not that my voice has gotten better... probably that I learned a few things about singing and more importantly, how to record it properly.  Thanks
     
    Shawn: I liked that guitar solo too... thanks
     
    Tim: I think I was working on writing and recording this while I was also working on the collab with you. Thanks

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    Re: Fall Back in Love 2014/05/29 23:05:50 (permalink)
    Very nice song Herb. Nice instrumentation and vocals and the mix is perfect. Great work as always.
     
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