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Faster Song, Non Drifting... MIX 2... Kind of lost. Mainly low end checkup?
This is a novelty song that I just want to get done, I hate working on it but I can’t help myself… This is my 2nd full production. https://www.reverbnation.com/passivedriftNot even my style. I wrote it in (2011 Copyright) (Recording 2016 Copyright) “Passive Drift Productions” This is Ver. 2 Any advice would be cool…. Peace!
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/14 14:46:40
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Mixing crits:
Vocal is buried (something about "wheel" is all I can catch)
Almost no bass or kick (lacks bottom)
Sounds very mono-ish (no stereo spread)
No dynamics, same old same old through the whole song
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/14 14:51:22
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Mixing crits:
Vocal is buried (something about "wheel" is all I can catch)
Almost no bass or kick (lacks bottom)
Sounds very mono-ish (no stereo spread)
No dynamics, same old same old through the whole song
Thank you :) Just what I thought as well... I used that "Headphone Sonarworks" Not much help... lol Did you hear the clipping?
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/14 15:04:19
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Passive Drift
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Mixing crits:
Vocal is buried (something about "wheel" is all I can catch)
Almost no bass or kick (lacks bottom)
Sounds very mono-ish (no stereo spread)
No dynamics, same old same old through the whole song
Thank you :) Just what I thought as well... I used that "Headphone Sonarworks" Not much help... lol
Did you hear the clipping?
Did you export with Sonarworks engaged? I'm sure you know this but you're not supposed to export with it engaged. I did not hear clipping, that doesn't mean it wasn't there 
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/14 15:13:30
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Passive Drift
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Mixing crits:
Vocal is buried (something about "wheel" is all I can catch)
Almost no bass or kick (lacks bottom)
Sounds very mono-ish (no stereo spread)
No dynamics, same old same old through the whole song
Thank you :) Just what I thought as well... I used that "Headphone Sonarworks" Not much help... lol
Did you hear the clipping?
Did you export with Sonarworks engaged? I'm sure you know this but you're not supposed to export with it engaged.
I did not hear clipping, that doesn't mean it wasn't there
Yup. Same as Arc 2... just something off. It could be me... ha! It's just flat... Still learning anyhow... :) Thank you.. Peace!
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/14 20:28:03
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Very catchy song! And I love your voice; the depth is very attractive. I like the whole attitude of this song. I'm not qualified to talk about the mix, but the material is really great!
LJ
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/14 20:41:39
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Very catchy song! And I love your voice; the depth is very attractive. I like the whole attitude of this song. I'm not qualified to talk about the mix, but the material is really great!
LJ
Thank you! :)
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/15 10:31:57
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Seems to have some potential, but I would pretty much echo Bapu's comments: mix needs a bunch of work.
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/15 11:13:15
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echo what was prev stated mixwise. I like the tune....has great potential for that style. Is hard to stop messin' with certain things at certain times. thx for the share.
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/15 12:23:49
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Thanks to all, A remix soon... :)
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/15 13:10:52
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curious what your Daw setup n plugs are if any your using? (...save the Sonarworks Hphones mentioned.) Suggest some if nothing yet.... mass potential for sure. Look forward to the improvements ...good luck
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/15 13:24:39
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Will keep the furry ears open for the remix.
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/15 13:32:20
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BASSJOKER
curious what your Daw setup n plugs are if any your using? (...save the Sonarworks Hphones mentioned.) Suggest some if nothing yet.... mass potential for sure. Look forward to the improvements ...good luck
Hey, it looks like my main issues was mu buss tracks... I'm working on replacing them now.. they where not working and I didn't notice... I always start with a blank template if that's what you mean... Plugins... Too may to think of... lol Thank you! :)
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/15 13:32:41
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Will keep the furry ears open for the remix.
thank you! :)
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/15 13:47:33
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right on ....something that is helping me is dropping my mix into Waveosaur (cool freeware) to compare (A/B) my mixes as I hope to improve them. look forward to your improvements ;o)
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/15 16:00:28
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BASSJOKER
right on ....something that is helping me is dropping my mix into Waveosaur (cool freeware) to compare (A/B) my mixes as I hope to improve them. look forward to your improvements ;o)
That may be a good idea... Thanks! :) after I get this one re mixed... I'm into it now... with Sonar issues... time for a work around... Peace!
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/16 08:16:19
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Hi Dave, Yeah, catchy tune this. Kind of made me think of Real Wild Child. I can't add anything to the advice above... I will look out for the remix  cheers andy
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/16 10:05:47
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Hi Dave,
Yeah, catchy tune this. Kind of made me think of Real Wild Child.
I can't add anything to the advice above... I will look out for the remix
cheers
andy
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/16 17:34:28
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I like this a lot as a song and all of the elements are in there - I specially like the drums.
Mix-wise, were you going for a lo-fi sound? If so, I get it but it's almost too 'nice'. Needs more dirt on your voice and the guitars. I really think this has a lot of potential.
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/16 23:27:02
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I like this a lot as a song and all of the elements are in there - I specially like the drums.
Mix-wise, were you going for a lo-fi sound? If so, I get it but it's almost too 'nice'. Needs more dirt on your voice and the guitars. I really think this has a lot of potential.
Thank you! :) I'm working on it... and working on it....
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/20 12:20:05
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Here is Mix 2.
I'm going to pull back on this recording and rerecord it.
Any other Advice would be great! As I step back into studio mode... tomorrow.
Many of you here will appreciate that.
*A note to… Maybe you want to do the bass and help out?
Peace to all…
Dave
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/20 12:36:27
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Good little rocker, but at the moment it sounds very demo-ish. My comments are more about the arrangement than the mix. The chorus/hook needs backing vocals. 'Up, up on the wheel' is a good hook, but it's lost in the overall sound.
Drums need to change from verse to chorus to provide dynamics. That lead guitar warbling away in the left channel sounds like someone in the next room - pull it in nearer the centre and use it more sparingly, or have it do some counter-melody riffs, it's a bit too noodly. If it's going to do a solo, put that on a seperate track front and centre.
Definitely need some BASS!
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/20 13:02:46
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Good little rocker, but at the moment it sounds very demo-ish. My comments are more about the arrangement than the mix. The chorus/hook needs backing vocals. 'Up, up on the wheel' is a good hook, but it's lost in the overall sound.
Drums need to change from verse to chorus to provide dynamics. That lead guitar warbling away in the left channel sounds like someone in the next room - pull it in nearer the centre and use it more sparingly, or have it do some counter-melody riffs, it's a bit too noodly. If it's going to do a solo, put that on a seperate track front and centre.
Definitely need some BASS!
Thank you, all good points and Advice :) I was trying an EQ spread on the gtr, it didn’t work... ha! Peace! Dave
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/20 22:08:09
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Yeah, Dave, this is a rockin' tune! Sure it's a bit raw yet, but this has the core of a great punkish surfer thing. Don't give up on it! Here's my feedback:
Vocals are pushed kind of far back. I get this, because my first couple of mixes for a song are always like that and everybody here says, "need more lead vocals." Ha.
I agree with the comment on dynamics in everything, not just specific instruments, but in the song structure itself. Find places to let it breathe some. Find a place for a cool break, write a nice bridge for the song, find a way to make the chorus more obvious. Put a solo in there, which is a great excuse to move that constant guitar to a specific spot in the song where it can stand out and say something in its own right.
As for plugs, I'd rip 'em all out and try to get things sounding happening without them (except for amp sims and such.) Then when you add one you'll really hear it work and you won't bury this little jewel in mud.
Great start, I like it!
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/20 22:45:41
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Nice propulsion, appropriate for the song. As a vocalist, you might try getting your voice out of second gear ... experiment with lower notes, higher notes, a little variety. Just a thought.
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/21 01:05:19
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Thanks Kevin and William.
On the last version I used vocal rider and the vocals where on top better. This time I was just trying to work on everything else. I know the vocals are a bit week here and there… It was really hard to find a place to take a breath of air. I’m starting over in the morning with it… All advice was/is really helpful!
Can’t wait to get on it… :)
^ Thanks to all who posted ^
Dave
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/21 01:13:47
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oh yea...
Hello to all, just had a question...
I kind of think that this is a rock song.
But people keep telling me its a punkish type song.
Not that it's a problem at all, it's not :)
But what makes it a punk song?
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/21 01:49:07
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Normally I would say this is a bad mix. Nothing is distinct, the vocals are lost in the mess, and there seems to be an insane guitar solo going on all the way through the whole thing, panned to one channel only. But then I catch a few words, "rocket in my pocket," "speedway junkie," "lead in my heel," and I start to get a picture of the inside of a NASCAR racer: sweaty, loud, on the knife edge of spinning out, the wall speeding by outside the window, the engines of other cars screaming as you get around them, a huge crowd cheering, complete freakin' chaos coming from all sides, and I think "Yeah, this track puts me right there!" It won't get on the radio, but you've achieved something here, and I mean that in a good way.
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/21 09:31:16
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TBH: Mix 2 sounds not that much diff than Mix 1 to me.
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Re: Faster Song, Non Drifting...
2016/09/21 10:01:41
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Normally I would say this is a bad mix. Nothing is distinct, the vocals are lost in the mess, and there seems to be an insane guitar solo going on all the way through the whole thing, panned to one channel only. But then I catch a few words, "rocket in my pocket," "speedway junkie," "lead in my heel," and I start to get a picture of the inside of a NASCAR racer: sweaty, loud, on the knife edge of spinning out, the wall speeding by outside the window, the engines of other cars screaming as you get around them, a huge crowd cheering, complete freakin' chaos coming from all sides, and I think "Yeah, this track puts me right there!" It won't get on the radio, but you've achieved something here, and I mean that in a good way.
WOW! Thank you! To be honest, when it’s done it’s going to be Marketed to 4.5 million Nascar fans on facebook… This has always been the plan since before I wrote it… I tried to sell the song but got no bites so I’m doing it myself. Thanks again!
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