sykodelic


so map save to your controller

I mainly record my guitars...

John T


 just silly. 

that is what some of us are saying about an app that doesn't have a Save icon

Yeah, I don't disagree. But you know, not everything is an OMG DEAL BREAKER show-stopping design howler. And coming up with a fringe case of "ah, but what about people who keep their keyboards in the fridge" just seems like lack of perspective.

Okay...please read slowly..."My hands/fingers are nowhere near my PC keyboard".

 
So yuo save while you are playing? I understand what you are saying but it sounds as if you save while you are tracking or mixing. If that is the case then I see where it would be a problem.
I think you'll get this worked out. I don't mean to pick at you... I realize that this is a problem for you... see my next post. I bet if you ask Ben he will make you a small floating button that you can position anywhere on the screen, that would be better than a button on the toolbar, in the meantime file>save might be your best option.. it is a little more work but you can still do it with the mouse.
 
Julien

Read me again Julian - If I have one hand on my synth keyboard and the other on the mouse and my eyes fixed to the screen and my brain is in the groove, why on earth would I (or you) actually prefer to remove both hands to invoke an action (not just ctrl-S, but alt-ctrl-whatever), and then get both hands back in position and restart concentration - when just moving the mouse and click will do? I'd rather do it by telepathy, but tool bar will do for now.

 
I understand what you are saying and it seems that a button would work well for you. Have you tried Benstat's toolbar? IT may be the answer you seek, or (file>save)...
 
Just because something is not a problem for me does not mean it is not a problem for you...  I get that.
 
Maybe Ben could mke you a big floating save button, I hope you find the answer tht works for you.
 
Julien

Julian - we're way beyond ctrl-s, and beyond discussing how difficult it is to hit two keys. The issue is work flow.  I do many commands exclusive by keyboard (ctrl-s is one of them), and other exclusively by mouse click.  And I want to decide how I wish to invoke commands, not anyone else - although I believe there are as many preferences to this issue as users - with these computer thingies the programmers can give us (you and me) a choice.  Just look at 8.5 for a good example.  Custom tool bars are good. 

Kelsoz,
Well put, you have made our case eloquently, and I THANK you!

John T,
You sir, are MAYBE, just a bit over the top with that last post (I'm not saying I wasn't entertained)...

I think both sides have made their cases, X1c will tell us IF Cake thinks custom toolbars are important.

What I think is being missed here is a question of real-world usability.  Although after buying a monster machine I don't have this happen often, crashes are still in the forefront of my brain from before.  I don't want the hassle of auto-save suddenly making me wait 10 seconds in some random spot while it does its thing.  So, as I am doing my work, and the right pause is reached in what I'm doing, I'll move the mouse up and tap the save button.  With it not there as a visual reminder, I may not remember to save. 

Control-S I will simply never think about, and I'm a dinosaur IT consultant who's worked in many green-screen systems.

Is it the end of the world?  No.  But customers simply hate when things are made harder than they used to be, especially if they feel that the developers have decided what's good for them.  This may be a big part of it for many; the sense that CW will decide suddenly that something incredibly stupid is 'the right way'.  A small thing like removing the save button may, to many users, portend other more serious excursions into 'improved usability'.  More options are always seen as improvement.  Less options as retrograde.  What lack of programming sophistication makes it necessary for you, CW developers, to lock the options down more than you used to?  That's what inevitably comes into many users' minds.  It creates distrust, which, given the incredibly complexity of the product, is not a good thing.

My suggestion on this in the future is, before you think of taking anything away, put it out there to the user community for feedback.

Julien -

No jokes.

Sorry - my bad on spelling.

Avatar is alternate album cover photo for Switched on Bach (1968).

The first thing I do in any software program (if possible) is get rid of all the save, copy, paste, etc buttons. The keyboard is "much" faster.
I realize some need and like the mouse. And that's fine also for those that do. There is no rule. To each his or her own.