Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar!

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2011/02/13 04:10:11 (permalink)

Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar!

Unless I am missing something, the only way to save a project in Sonar X1 is to go File - Save, right?
I would really, really like to have a SAVE button in the control bar.

I know someone will suggest I use Autosave, but that ain't gonna happen - it interferes with playback and recording and is just not a viable option.

And while we're at this, it would be nice to be able to put some frequently used commands, like Quantize, or Length, into that vacant space in the control bar. That would let us 'undock' these commands from the Process menu, and put them anywhere we want. Maybe into the pop-up that shows when you right click in the track view.

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 04:48:00 (permalink)
    I would also like a save button on the control bar. I use ctrl+S now, but i would still like the option.
    I get the feeling that I'm working with someone elses setup when using Sonar X1. In 8.5 I had everything setup the way i wanted it - customised. Now it feels like I'm stuck with someone elses idea of how I should work. I'm sure this has probably been said before. Maybe I've missed something?

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 05:08:55 (permalink)
    Ctrl+S is lightning fast. I do it every three-four minutes when the project is advancing rapidly.
    Make a habit of it: The same way you pull you hair back or scratch your nose, click Ctrl+S just to be sure :o)

    Absolutely no need to add another button in the UI for something like that, because finding the button with the mouse and clicking it is slower than Ctrl+S.
    post edited by Kalle Rantaaho - 2011/02/13 05:11:03

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 06:41:08 (permalink)
    Ok, there is a great solve for this - download the Sonarhelper at Sonarhelper.com.

    It gives you a new toolbar that you can float anywhere, and you can customize its buttons. This is a must-have for Sonar!

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 06:47:52 (permalink)
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    Ctrl+S is lightning fast. I do it every three-four minutes when the project is advancing rapidly.
    Make a habit of it: The same way you pull you hair back or scratch your nose, click Ctrl+S just to be sure :o)

    Absolutely no need to add another button in the UI for something like that, because finding the button with the mouse and clicking it is slower than Ctrl+S.


    im with you on this one...theres enough buttons as it is,the shortcut is actually faster than hnting the one button click in 8.5

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 09:17:09 (permalink)
    What I think would be nice is to have a save-as button or shortcut that would automatically number the file sequentially.

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 09:27:00 (permalink)
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    What I think would be nice is to have a save-as button or shortcut that would automatically number the file sequentially.

     
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    I would use this a lot
     
     
     

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 15:11:27 (permalink)
    g_randybrown


    What I think would be nice is to have a save-as button or shortcut that would automatically number the file sequentially.


    Check out "versioning" in the manual - page 304. Might do the job. You can set it up from Preferences -> File -> Advanced

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 15:36:02 (permalink)
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    What I think would be nice is to have a save-as button or shortcut that would automatically number the file sequentially.

    This is already available. What it does is everytime you save, it saves a version with a differnt timestamp. But to the user it looks like you are overwriting the original file. Works great. Now everytime you save, it's like a save as with a timestamp.
     
    Preferences-File-Advanced-Enable Versioning of project
     
    If you need to go back to one of these saved versions, you need to go into the folder that contains them and remove the time stamp from the file name by renaming it. Remove everything to the right of .cwp
     
    For example:  My Song.cwp.~2011-01-30-17-59-13-424  becomes My Song.cwp, but I would rename it as well.
    post edited by A1MixMan - 2011/02/13 15:38:50

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 16:21:15 (permalink)
    I'm a "Control S" person myself, but I also bind the save to the Number Pad ENTER key. All the number pads are open for custom bindings. As long as you have a keyboard with a number pad, that is one of the easiest and largest keys to hit in a hurry - instantly saving the project.

    I find this (and even the Control S) to be much faster than moving a mouse to find a button - however I do understand that some users don't like to use the keyboard. I so no reason why it isn't in the Control Bar, but if you want it now the Sonar Helper is certainly the answer!

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 21:22:37 (permalink)
    I saw a response from Brandon or Seth in another thread where they stated that the icon was purposely omited to avoid hitting it by mistake and saving a project prematurely. A sort of error proof..
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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 21:35:27 (permalink)
    I have buttons on my mouse that I set for play (spacebar), record (r) and save (CTRL+S). Very handy.

    I was unaware of the versioning. Very, Very cool tip! Thanks guys.

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 21:55:55 (permalink)
    g_randybrown
    What I think would be nice is to have a save-as button or shortcut that would automatically number the file sequentially.
    +1.


    The versioning stuff sounds cool, I never looked at that. I wonder, does it use the same audio data folder?


    I'd still like a Save As, sometimes you start with a "dummy" project that needs a whole new identity on Save, other times you want to fork off from a version to a new project. 


    Seems like it would be completely trivial to make a "Files" module that has all these buttons on it. Those who want it can turn it on and those who don't can forget it.




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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 22:57:47 (permalink)
    I just discovered USB foot switches!  I have one assigned to the "R" (record) command.  Now I don't have to drop my guitar reaching for the keyboard, or hit "R" and run to get ready anymore!





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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 23:11:22 (permalink)
    I would like have save and save as buttons. But make it configuarble so the mouse haters can turn it off.

    The disapearing toolbars are the main reason I have not upgraded yet, but as has been mentioned Bensats Sonar Helper is there for those who find it quicker to click a button than reach over an use the keyboard.
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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/02/13 23:20:14 (permalink)
    CTRL-S rules. Its the fastest way and it works in every Windows program. Its a lot faster than moving the mouse, and pressing the button and then moving back to where you were. 

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/06/27 22:39:00 (permalink)
    Although I'm usually a CTRL+S person, I've found myself really missing the Save button on the toolbar. I would enable that menu in previous versions of SONAR when the default was to hide it.

    If I'm in the flow of working with my mouse -- which is most of the time when I'm working in SONAR -- it's distracting have to use the keyboard for a two-key action, when I could just zip my pointer to the Save button, click, then continue working.

    I think it's a mistake that Cakewalk removed this functionality. I would rather hide a module I don't particularly use in favor of a File Management module than not to have the choice at all.

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/06/27 22:50:20 (permalink)
    ctrl-s  couldn't get easier than that.  Why does everybody want all these buttons everywhere.  

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/06/28 08:04:20 (permalink)
    dlesaux said...

    I saw a response from Brandon or Seth in another thread where they stated that the icon was purposely omited to avoid hitting it by mistake and saving a project prematurely. A sort of error proof..


    If that is true, than that seems a bit silly.  Ctrl+S can also "prematurely" save a project if you meant to hit "Ctrl+A" to select all tracks or "Ctrl+X" to cut a highlighted something and hit the "save" by accident.  Both of those shortcut keys are right next to "Ctrl+S".

    I do hope they give us the option to put the save on the control bar as I've used that forever with earlier versions.  As others have stated, make it something that the user can add and leave it off by default then.

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/06/28 08:25:55 (permalink)



    ctrl-s couldn't get easier than that. Why does everybody want all these buttons everywhere.


    This is the whole issue with X1 (OK, not the WHOLE issue).  If I have one hand on my synth keyboard and the other on the mouse and my eyes fixed to the screen, ctrl-s is NOT the easiest.  Ctrl-s (or whatever) is an encumbrance!

    I want to decide what I do with the mouse and keyboard, not you, not the bakers, only me.  Custom toolbars does it.  And if you want to use the default toolbars, have at it.
    post edited by kelsoz - 2011/06/28 08:29:45

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/07/01 22:17:11 (permalink)
    I want to decide what I do with the mouse and keyboard, not you, not the bakers, only me.  Custom toolbars does it.  And if you want to use the default toolbars, have at it.
     
    Totally agree.  I'm often moving many notes with the mouse on the piano roll and having to go to the keyboard or an extra menu is a stupid hassle.  Never remove a feature unless you've checked with the community.  I also hate having to go through an extra menu to pick tracks.

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/07/01 22:24:35 (permalink)
    kelsoz

     I want to decide what I do with the mouse and keyboard... 


    I can't understand why this wouldn't make sense to the programmers who created X1?  This seems to be one of those "no brainer" deals...



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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/07/01 22:38:37 (permalink)
    Really? Ctrl-S is a problem? Little finger/middle finger.. I don't understand why a button on the toolbar would be easier.
     
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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/07/01 22:51:06 (permalink)
    Really? Ctrl-S is a problem? Little finger/middle finger.. I don't understand why a button on the toolbar would be easier. 
      
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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/07/01 23:01:41 (permalink)
    I found the lack of a save icon odd, but since i use the V-Studio 700, I have a save button on the console.  Otherwise, i would be annoyed by the missing icon.

    Interestingly, my daughter knows what the save icon is, but has never actually seen a floppy disk.  Same way she knows that dial, hang-up, and ring relate to phones although she's never seen a dial or a hook, and her ring is a WAV file.
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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/07/01 23:11:42 (permalink)
    I have saved mapped to my alphatrack could be why I don't miss it i guess but control s is easy enough.

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/07/01 23:19:42 (permalink)
    OK. If CTRL-S is too much for you, what's wrong with File-Save? 

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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/07/01 23:24:46 (permalink)
    CTRL-S , case closed. I suppose that was one of the buttons in 8.5.3 tht people can't live without.
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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/07/01 23:42:20 (permalink)
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    Really? Ctrl-S is a problem? Little finger/middle finger.. I don't understand why a button on the toolbar would be easier.
     
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    Re:Feature Request: 'Save' button on control bar! 2011/07/01 23:55:27 (permalink)
    so map save to your controller

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