File name when using an external audio editor

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2011/05/03 20:35:53 (permalink)

File name when using an external audio editor

I often select an audio track or clip and then use the Tools menu to send it to Cool Edit for editing.  It all works fine except that when the edited file comes back and is reloaded into SHS7, the name of the file is something like

Tool Copy 1 of Takexxxxxxx.wav

which is less than enlightening.

Is there a way to get SHS7 and Cool Edit to use the (more useful) original name generated by SHS7 ??

--Larry

PS:  While editing within Cool Edit, it displays the filename as Tool Copy 1 of......  so I think SHS7 makes up that name.
On the other hand, when I do the same thing with ProAudio9, Cool Edit displays the filename as Tool Copy 1 of..... but when PA9 reloads the file into the track it gets renamed to a PA9 style name.




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    57Gregy
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    Re:File name when using an external audio editor 2011/05/03 22:35:44 (permalink)
    Does Cool Edit have a Save As option?
    You can also right-click any clip in SONAR, select Properties and name it something more desirable like '[song name] acoustic guitar track 6' so the Cool Edit file name will use that name in their file name.

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    Re:File name when using an external audio editor 2011/05/04 07:44:42 (permalink)
    you can change the name of the clip in sonar in the clip properties, but, as you say, when you export sonar adds its own stuff to the filename and asks you if it's OK but doesn't give you the option to change it. 

    this is another thing I wish we had more control over.  why do they have to control the name of that file?

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    Re:File name when using an external audio editor 2011/05/04 18:02:11 (permalink)
    Based on the suggestions from Beagle and Greg, I did some experimenting (with SHS7 and Cool Edit):

    Changing the name of the clip has nothing to do with the filename of the file containing the clip.  That is, the clip name and the underlying filename are totally independent.

    Cool Edit does have a Save As.... but if you save the file it got from SHS7 under a different name, SHS7 doesn't notice it so it doesn't come back into SHS7.  I think that SHS7 saves the file with the Tool Copy... name in a temp folder and then opens Cool Edit passing the name to it.  When Cool Edit is done, SHS7 looks at the file to see if it has changed and takes it in if it has changed.

    I am not directly exporting the clip wav file.  So SHS7 never asks if the filename is OK (as suggested by Beagle).  Cool Edit appears as a tool in my Tools menu and the passing of the file between SHS7 and Cool Edit is transparent to me (except that I can see the filename that Cool Edit is working on).

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    Re:File name when using an external audio editor 2011/05/05 08:40:06 (permalink)
    ah - I didn't realize you were using cool edit within SHS instead of exporting.

    (I still don't like the file name mandated by cakewalk when exporting a track! )

    interesting that the properties of the clip name and the filename are independent.  thanks for sharing that Larry.

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    Re:File name when using an external audio editor 2011/05/05 11:38:52 (permalink)
    One of the complicating factors of file names in SHS7 (and ProAudio9 and, I suspect, in other versions of Sonar) is that the same wav file can be used in more than one project.  SHS7 tends to pick names for new wav files that include the name of the project.  But you can't rely on that association since a new project, with a totally different name, can also use the same wav file.  (Note:  I haven't been using per project folders so I have wav files from multiple projects in the same audio folder.)  Sonar has no way of knowing if another project is sharing a wav file so it doesn't delete them at any time either.  Of course, CWAF was created to sort this all out for us.

    And since a wav file can be shared amongst multiple projects, you can't just decide to have Sonar change the name of an existing file.  Well, if you really wanted that feature then Sonar could make a copy of the wav file and give it the desired name.

    When Sonar is creating a new file then, as Beagle suggest, user control of the name would be nice.

    --Larry

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    Re:File name when using an external audio editor 2011/05/05 13:51:22 (permalink)
    I do use per project folders; I think it makes much more sense than a global audio folder.

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