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2011/08/30 16:28:17 (permalink)

Final Consensus On X1C Update?

I see some people with problems and some without, so what's the final verdict on X1C?
 
To install or not to install, that is the question.
 
 

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 16:38:29 (permalink)
    To install or not to install, that is the question.
    Depends on how much of a risk taker you are ...

    Are you a fanboi?

    If you are, you're going to love it no matter how it actually works.

    Not a fanboi?

    Read the forums and get some real world input and decide if the risk is worth the reward.

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 16:53:34 (permalink)
    Install it, It's working great for me

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 16:56:32 (permalink)
    I think it is safe to install, works awesome here.



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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 16:58:15 (permalink)
    Bub


    Are you a fanboi?

    If you are, you're going to love it no matter how it actually works.

    You is bad Bud Bup Bub
     
     

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 17:13:37 (permalink)
    Works like a charm over here. 64 is my lucky number, all the way. ;) From a fanboi (a proud one at that), jc xx
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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 17:20:44 (permalink)
    I'm neither a fanboi nor a detractor, but it works well on my system. I've gotten to know the X1 paradigm pretty well over the months, and that being said, I still prefer much of the previous paradigm over the new one. I would love to see CW bring back some of the right click menus.

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 17:27:59 (permalink)
    A1mixman: there is no reason not to install it and further more
    the people who claim there having big issues, are having big system issues in reality, and some still stuck to this day.. Its easier
    to blame the software than tech their systems...
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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 18:50:38 (permalink)
    I don't care what anyone will call me, but X1c makes me want to dance the dance of joy because it's pretty damn awesome!

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 20:16:55 (permalink)
    Don't listen to boob Bub he has lost the plot long ago, X1c works fine here.

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 20:23:04 (permalink)
    As always, the sensible approach is to do a system back up and install it. If you have problems, roll back. I've got a backup drive with a bunch of good configurations on it, so unless something literally physically breaks, I don't have downtime.

    More directly answering your question, it's been trouble free for me.

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 20:27:11 (permalink)
    I'm sorry, but why the drama? It's an update. Back up your stuff and install it for Crist sake.
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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 21:08:11 (permalink)
    Telecaster


    Don't listen to boob Bub he has lost the plot long ago, X1c works fine here.


    you are so correct...sad to say..
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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 21:18:31 (permalink)
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    A1mixman: there is no reason not to install it and further more
    the people who claim there having big issues, are having big system issues in reality, and some still stuck to this day.. Its easier
    to blame the software than tech their systems...

    +1
    The one time X1C crashed, was due to my own doing.......
     
     

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 21:31:15 (permalink)
    Actually girls and boys ... I didn't say a word about X1. All I said was read the forum and decide for yourself.

    Get your **** straight.

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 21:33:57 (permalink)
    Hmm. That's not all you said at all.

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 21:36:39 (permalink)
    John T

    Hmm. That's not all you said at all.
    I'm sure you'll have no problem acting like your avatar and twist it in to something to fit your warped needs.

    Ready? Lets go ... or shall we stop here?


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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 21:49:12 (permalink)
    Bub: I havent heard much good comming from you in a long wile
    you might wana consider that..nothing personal...
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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 22:49:36 (permalink)
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    I see some people with problems and some without, so what's the final verdict on X1C?
     
    To install or not to install, that is the question.
     
     
    I suppose this is as a good a thread to jump in on as any regarding X1C, so ...

    As many of you know - I have not had good luck with X1 and have not been using it.  This is after many years of being a heavy power Sonar user up until X1.

    X1 does not seem to like my main DAW which runs other host software (Live, Reaper, Studio One Pro, etc) without problems.  Only X1 is a problem.    Aside from crashing and other showstoppers, it just doesn't "look" right either  (the naming schemes are silly in my opinion).

    BUT I have recently taken the time to setup a new laptop with X1C, including a new audio device (so I didn't have to change my main DAW in any way), and installed many of my plugins (some in demo mode as I didn't want to use up a license).

    This "experiment" showed me that X1C runs *VERY* differently -- and resulting in MUCH MUCH better performance -- when run on certain hardware/software configurations.    I was actually somewhat impressed running it on the laptop.

    My desktop (main) DAW is a dual monitor XP Pro SP3 32bit 4G RAM setup.   My laptop is (single screen obviously) Windows 7, i5, 4G RAM setup.    Both are using SATA drives.

    I have said, and now strongly believe, that there's something about X1 that is finnicky (touchy/sensitive) to what hardware it runs on, and that X1 prefers Windows 7.   

    So -- to answer your question whether to install or not ...   I'd say if you were having trouble with it before and are using the same environment/hardware, you MIGHT see some improvement, but probably not much better than before.

    IF you're running a newer, well built, well configured system -- then X1C will probably work really well.

    I know there are some users who claim to have no issues with X1 and are not running top of the line or totally up to date systems; and I believe they are telling the truth.   I'd also bet that most (though maybe not all) aren't really pushing X1 to the limits and therefor don't use some of the features that might kick it into sensitive areas.

    I've seen TOO many times people mention a feature they think is cool and new that, in fact, has been in Sonar for a long time -- proving to me at least - that many simply did not use Sonar to its fullest and therefor can easily have a "good" experience with it.

    But overall I think X1C probably is mostly (if not fully) solid when running on hardware IT likes.   If it's on a system it doesn't like (even one that IS up to specs), then be prepared for a bumpy ride.

    As for me -- when time allows I'll put together a nice "X1 friendly" system so I can use it along with the other hosts that don't need such high maintenance.

    I liked the way X1 flowed on my laptop, and it definitely felt like a usable DAW; but I'm going to wait until I have a new desktop to get serious with it.

    So that's my .02cents (times 10? lol)





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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 22:51:23 (permalink)
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    I see some people with problems and some without, so what's the final verdict on X1C?
     
    To install or not to install, that is the question.
     
     


    BTW - I would definitely investigate HOW people are using X1 and what features are critical to them before accepting statements like:  " IT'S WORKING GREAT HERE!!!"

    I think that kind of comment without really knowing the workflow is of extremely limited value.



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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 22:53:47 (permalink)
    Good to see you Billy. Hope everything is going good for you.

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 22:59:25 (permalink)
    Bub


    Good to see you Billy. Hope everything is going good for you.


    Thanks Bub.  I see you're still stickin' your neck out all over the place here lol.

    My advice to you would be to not take this place too seriously and back it down a bit.    Life is too short to spend so much time on a forum (I did it too for awhile so I know it's addictive).

    I do think it's good many people contribute here, and some are realllly great I think, but the 'few' who seem to want to own/control/dictate how this forum goes still are doing so and it's incredibly disturbing.

    Anyway - I hope you're doing good too.    Try "Post less, More Music" ;)



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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 23:01:01 (permalink)
     backup and install.. i was a little nervous cause X1b was working so well... X1c hasnt skiped a beat.

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 23:02:26 (permalink)
    X1C is working fantastic for me.

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 23:48:18 (permalink)
    Well, a consensus is "an agreement by most of those concerned" so I don't think getting that is even possible on this forum.  But my individual assessment, niggles aside, is it (X1C) works as good as most other versions of Sonar, if not better.  And it's certainly got many new enhancements that are very attractive.  Is it perfect?  Not by a longshot.  But then, what is?

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/30 23:49:43 (permalink)
    BUT I have recently taken the time to setup a new laptop with X1C, including a new audio device (so I didn't have to change my main DAW in any way), and installed many of my plugins (some in demo mode as I didn't want to use up a license). This "experiment" showed me that X1C runs *VERY* differently -- and resulting in MUCH MUCH better performance -- when run on certain hardware/software configurations. I was actually somewhat impressed running it on the laptop. My desktop (main) DAW is a dual monitor XP Pro SP3 32bit 4G RAM setup. My laptop is (single screen obviously) Windows 7, i5, 4G RAM setup. Both are using SATA drives. I have said, and now strongly believe, that there's something about X1 that is finnicky (touchy/sensitive) to what hardware it runs on, and that X1 prefers Windows 7.

     
    Hi Billy,
     
    Glad to hear X1's performance on the new machine (laptop) is more in line with what you'd expect.
     
    When experiencing such major stability issues with X1... it seems logical (to me) that there's something more at play.
    Thus, although I'm sure it's frustrating, it would make logical sense that X1c wouldn't take this type of scenario from complete instability... to total rock-solid performance.
    Based on what we've seen/experienced... X1 does seem to work best on modern well-configured hardware and Win7.
     
    At least now you've experienced the flip-side  
    There is light at the end of the tunnel.

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/31 03:59:03 (permalink)
    X1C for me is still stable as X1 has been, for me, since release. However X1C is more buggy for me than X1b, mainly because of several bugs involving drum maps and the step sequencer. About 4 I believe.

    Nothing I haven't found work rounds for but bugs all the same. I've even considered going back to X1b but that's probably more hassle than it's worth given that the bugs only really affect when I'm drum programming.
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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/31 04:17:07 (permalink)
    Workin fine here, recorded & mixed my girlfriends ukulele ep last week and everything was running smooth.

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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/31 05:03:32 (permalink)
    Unfinished. 
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    Re:Final Consensus On X1C Update? 2011/08/31 05:53:50 (permalink)
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    I see some people with problems and some without, so what's the final verdict on X1C?
     
    To install or not to install, that is the question.
     
     

    I don't know about that?  Seem more lately----> s-hit behind the wheels and overall Trolling in this FORUM...Some havn't SONAR installed in their computer or own it... still moaning about problems in SONAR X1?
     
    SONAR C1 update works great, no problems. No crashes!
     
     
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