Also, the installer continues to try to install to C:\Program Files\Vstplugins - which is not where I want it.
(I prefer C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\VST'S and VSTi's\Soft Synths\z3ta+)

When you installed 1.5, you were asked for a folder to place the VST version. Most likely you picked that one.
Uninstall, reinstall, point the installer to the correct VST folder. Subsequent updates will go there too.

I'm not sure right now, but I'd say very soon. Probably in a couple of weeks.

ORIGINAL: René

ps. i don't want to test it again since it crashed windows hard, but did you try the right click->Properties with the dll?

I did try it on XP, Vista x86 and Vista x64 flawlessly. I also asked the testers to do it and got 5 positives too.
I googled for 'windows explorer crashes viewing dll properties' and got several possible causes, all Windows related. We'll keep an eye on it, but so far it looks like some interaction with another program you have installed.

Can you let us know what's your windows version and installed service packs? I assumed that you can see the properties of other dll's, is that correct?

I don't know about JamminFool, but on my Win2K SP3 (or whatever the last SP was) workstation, I see much the same thing. The z3ta+ v1.5.0 .dll file works (though I haven't had success installing a virused copy), but if I right-click the .dll file and ask for Properties, Windows Explorer crashes. In my case, the system stays up. You can blame Windows if you like, but there's clearly something a little bit special about that .dll.

ORIGINAL: René

Update manager, not a bad idea for one instrument. What happens if you have dozens of vsti like I do?

I'd think that then the Update Manager would make it dozens of times simpler

You open a song with that uses 10 vsti's and they all try to connect/check for updates at the same time? Or am I missing something?

Z3ta+ Update Manager isn't a sleeper cell background process that scans for a new update, and then leaps into action. It's a standalone applet that requires a deliberate action (double-click) to look for an update. It then compares your current version against what's available for download.

If you're up-to-date, it does nothing. If you want/need to be updated, you may proceed or cancel. From here, it places the correct files in the right locations for you. This last part is something that many end users find problematic, and the Updater is one proposed solution that addresses that situation. Do-it-yourselfers can still manually load updates on their systems. They just have to wait longer for the incremental fixes to be consolidated.

I guess this would go to Frank,

I purchased the ProSound patch set for z3ta. Is there anything different I need to do to set this up to use the new z3ta?

Thanks,
Daniel

ORIGINAL: René

My 2nd question is, did I miss anything?

Copying the new dll on the alternate computer doesn't work to propagate the update. You can just run the Update Manager from it, or:
The Update Manager leaves a copy of the Updater here:

$\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Cakewalk\z3ta+\z3ta+151Updater.exe.

This can be used for reinstalls without using the net, for bringing it over your non-internet computer. You need z3ta+ 1.5 installed in the computer where you run the Update Manager.

So we can download the updater and bring it to our NON-Internet DAWs
run the updater on the NON-internet DAW, but how do we get the 1.5.1 dll ?
Copy that over as well ?

thanks Rene !

ORIGINAL: René

You open a song with that uses 10 vsti's and they all try to connect/check for updates at the same time? Or am I missing something?

Yes, you are missing something, the first post to the thread.

As b rock indicated, z3ta+ Update Manager is a separate app. There's absolutely z3ro net/internet routines in the program itself.

From the first post in this thread:

"We want to invite you to check it out and let us know how it worked. We started with z3ta+, but have plans to integrate the automatic updates in the rest of the family. This is how the Update Manager works:

[1] It checks if it has an internet connection available. Must be run in the machine you have z3ta+ 1.5 installed.
[2] It checks what's the latest version of a z3ta+ from the website.
[3] It compares your version against the latest.
[4] If your version in your system is latest, it informs that and vanishes, or
[5] If your version is older than latest, it offers you to download and install the update. "

Gives the impression that the Update Manager runs automatically presumably when the plugin is started......like most automatic updaters in other non-vsti apps. I see further down in your post where you say "run the UM from any folder". That part I missed. So you have to run the automatic updater yourself but it's completely useless if your DAW computer is not internet connected. Still stuck on 1.4 here, no desire to do the internet/non internet machine copy/paste dance just for the "convenience" of "Automatic Updates"

So my answer, I surmise , is....

NO I cannot get 1.5.2 without being connected to the net
at this point in time

The way Rene responded, I thought it would come over with the updater,
But I misunderstood

To be clear it does not !

SO currently I am running 1.5.0 on my NON-internet connected DAW
which I presume is different than the 1.5.2 running on my laptop.

So there shouldn't be any problems writing and playing on a 1.5.2 in the hotel room, and transferring it to my big DAW back in the studio on 1.5.0....
Correct ?
Or can I copy the dll for 1.5.2 over and bring it to the non-internet DAW
and everything will be cool ?

I find it hard to believe that no one else has hit this wall, but it looks as if the only way the update manager installation program knows how to check for an existing 1.5 installation is to look in some fixed location like
C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VSTplugins. I do a de-install and re-install under E:\Program Files\Cakewalk and E:\Program Files\VSTplugins, and the update installer refuses to run, saying I haven't got 1.5 installed. Sonar and the minihost know better.

If the update manager is going to force me to put my music tools on my C: drive, I'm not interested. :o(

So whatever happened to the promise of being able to get the fixed updates via some means other than the update manager?