dr.hash 
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Re:Pre defined eq, compressors ect.
2010/07/30 19:13:48
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dr.hash
in answer to your question about db it tends to be 4-6 db that you aim for in terms of how much you squash somthing. Once again there is a formula, dont have it here at the moment. but aim for 4-6db gain reduction. Unless your after the bonham thing, then it can be 10-12db gain reduction. Yes Sonar is the only DAW.
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what is revolution ben?
what is bonham thing?
and cant understand where is 4-6db and so on...
OK revolution can be peaceful of violent you know guns and all, I'm just saying it's time for a revolution i don't know what sort I'm hoping it's going to be sonic. The bonham thing has to do with led zepplin and how the drum sound was made. -4-6db of gain reduction, this means how much you squash your source material (audio) Got it, i hope, any more question i will happily answer. "Wasn't the last twenty years crap, lets make the next twenty great" Viva La Revolution Sonar Forever, Pro Tools Never Ben B.CT (Bachelor Of Creative Technology)
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dr.hash
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Re:Pre defined eq, compressors ect.
2010/07/30 19:18:26
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batsbrew
if you record in a typical fashion, you'll use different sounds, tones, mics, all that, every time.
otherwise, everything you do will sound THE SAME.
and you don't want to do that, trust me.
the way you get good at mixing, is by mixing a lot.
you also ignore any presets.
that way, you practice actually using the tools you have (your ears, your brain, and some plug ins and outboard gear).
you find a way to capture the sound you want exactly like it is, from the source.
garbage in, garbage out, yada yada
so, having good SOURCE material, is the single most important thing to getting consistent mixes.
that, and consistently good arrangements. this is almost more important than the source material.
the way you use compressors, and eq's, and all that, is really the least important thing of all.
you have to train your ears to tell the truth. that's the hardest part of all, and it don't happen overnight.
seems that most of the time, when folks are asking for presets, it means they really haven't learned what they're doing yet, and are looking for shortcuts.
i'd bet that's really not what you want, and the short answer to all this is, practice, practice, practice.
and get good monitors, and be in a room that's treated for mixing.
OK bats brew, i said all that in my post and i agree, apart from moniters and room treatment. Once you know the formula and you can read a spectrum anaylyser this all goes out the window contraversial i know but a truth none the less. Viva La Revolution Sonar Forever, Pro Tools Never Ben B.C.T (Bachelor Of Creative Technology) http://www.myspace.com/audiomystics
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reader1
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Re:Pre defined eq, compressors ect.
2010/07/30 20:41:17
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dr.hash
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dr.hash
in answer to your question about db it tends to be 4-6 db that you aim for in terms of how much you squash somthing. Once again there is a formula, dont have it here at the moment. but aim for 4-6db gain reduction. Unless your after the bonham thing, then it can be 10-12db gain reduction. Yes Sonar is the only DAW.
Viva la Revolution Ben B.C.T (Bachelor Of Creative Technology)
http://www.myspace.com/audiomystics
what is revolution ben?
what is bonham thing?
and cant understand where is 4-6db and so on...
OK revolution can be peaceful of violent you know guns and all, I'm just saying it's time for a revolution i don't know what sort I'm hoping it's going to be sonic.
The bonham thing has to do with led zepplin and how the drum sound was made.
-4-6db of gain reduction, this means how much you squash your source material (audio)
Got it, i hope, any more question i will happily answer.
"Wasn't the last twenty years crap,
lets make the next twenty great"
Viva La Revolution Sonar Forever, Pro Tools Never
Ben B.CT (Bachelor Of Creative Technology)
oh, I see, ben is your name and it's like this what's revolution, ben? the revolution has been taken place since digital tech coming into. it changes every day our life. you are too obtinate at fixed db if for a skilled misician. Im afraid yu can hardly find a versitle formula.
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batsbrew
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Re:Pre defined eq, compressors ect.
2010/07/30 21:18:25
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dr hash
i didn't read what you wrote.
i simply answered the OP
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CJaysMusic
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Re:Pre defined eq, compressors ect.
2010/07/30 21:55:12
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i didn't read what you wrote.
i simply answered the OP
I do that often bats
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batsbrew
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Re:Pre defined eq, compressors ect.
2010/08/03 18:29:22
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cj-
i've tried to respond to your reply, for the last 4 days.....
only, the server would never take it...
wtf?
anyway, i welcome the 'long talk' about certain things......
and read all responses.
other times, i simply don't have the time, so i just try to answer the OP.
some folks get agitated that their posts aren't read, but hey, what cha gonna do?
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fitzj
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Re:Pre defined eq, compressors ect.
2010/08/04 03:57:36
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I about 10 years time this will be available. You record the audio and the software will be intelligent enough to give you a great sound. Very little mixing or mastering will be required if any. They are already nearly having it working.
What a sad day when that happens.
Watch this space.
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batsbrew
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Re:Pre defined eq, compressors ect.
2010/08/04 10:44:13
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wtf?
that was weird.......
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Chappel
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Re:Pre defined eq, compressors ect.
2010/08/04 11:09:44
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fitzj
IN about 10 years time this will be available. You record the audio and the software will be intelligent enough to give you a great sound. Very little mixing or mastering will be required if any. They are already nearly having it working.
What a sad day when that happens.
Watch this space.
That means that someday it will be computers complaining about software instead of people?
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dr.hash
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Re:Pre defined eq, compressors ect.
2010/08/04 19:17:02
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fitzj
I about 10 years time this will be available. You record the audio and the software will be intelligent enough to give you a great sound. Very little mixing or mastering will be required if any. They are already nearly having it working.
What a sad day when that happens.
Watch this space.
Here it is: http://www.musicresearch.com/blog/?tag=digital-audio Read this ****ers story about software that automatically mixes itself, don't worry over my dead body. I'm fighting this war for the children and you. Viva la Revolution Sonar Forever, Pro Tools Never Ben B.C.T (Bachelor of Creative Technology) http://www.myspace.com/audiomystics
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Legion
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Re:Pre defined eq, compressors ect.
2010/08/05 12:27:24
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Like many have said there is no magic preset list out there and even advice like "going for about 4 dB GR on the kick" can actually destroy a mix as much as help. If you have a little folder with sampled kicks listen to them and you will hear they all sound different and therefore need different treatment. And even the same kick sample will need different treatment depending on the sound of the rest of the mix.
The best advice is to listen to a lot of music, maybe look at it (and the separete elements) in spectrum analyzers, and learn to listen for the different sounds you like and what they are made up from. Then just open any compressor, eq etc and go bananas to see how the different settings sound and transform your music as you are comparing the changes made to how it sounded before as well as how much more, or less, it sounds from a song with a mix you really like in the same genre.
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