volume leveling

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2007/04/27 10:07:11 (permalink)

volume leveling

I can't seem to find an answer on this in my reference materials but maybe I'm looking under the wrong subject headings.

If you cut and paste the best parts of several recordings into a single track, how do you make the volume of the various clips the same throughout so that it sounds like a continous recording?

The volume levels don't vary that much but you can hear a bit of an increase in some parts of the track and a slight drop in others.
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    Robomusic
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    RE: volume leveling 2007/04/27 11:36:56 (permalink)
    I would use volume envelopes, right click the wave pattern and the option pops up. Once you have the envelope open a line will appear down the middle of the wive pattern, right click it and add nodes, theose can be slide up or down to increase or decrease the volume.

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    RE: volume leveling 2007/04/27 23:58:12 (permalink)
    You can use 'process>normalize', if that's an option in your program. According to MC, this will bring the volume of an entire track to the highest level in the track which doesn't clip. I've used it a couple times, so first, make sure it processes the entire track, not just 1 clip at a time, second, listen to it to see if it sounds okay to you before closing the project and you can't undo it.
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    RE: volume leveling 2007/04/28 06:24:23 (permalink)
    I very rarely use "Normalization," due to the fact that it's an "easy fix." I like to manually adjust overall volume. I'll sometimes use it in Soundforge due to its accurace, as well as "Detect Clipping" tool settings, however, never in Cakewalk.
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    RE: volume leveling 2007/04/30 13:59:21 (permalink)
    Normalizing is a dangerous process to use as it can cause other ptoblems, adjust with envelopes and keep it clean.

    Normalization takes a look at the peak levels and decides what it takes to raise that to the level you want, so ALL sound is raised, good and bad. So if you want to hit a decent level it may push some sound past the point where it should be causing an overall bad sound.

    Proper use of compression and limiting can do the same without any bad results.
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    RE: volume leveling 2007/04/30 18:50:17 (permalink)
    well, yes, PROPER use of compression and limiting can do the same without bad results...but IMPROPER use can give HORRIBLE results and honestly if you don't understand what the compressor or limiter is doing and try to go outside the presets, then you can easily use them improperly.

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    RE: volume leveling 2007/05/01 01:44:18 (permalink)
    Very true Beag, but remember the presets are just a starting point, and in many instances not very good, the old adage is trust your ears!



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    RE: volume leveling 2007/05/01 08:35:56 (permalink)
    Oh, I agree! I just wanted to point out that once you leave the presets, if you don't know what you're doing, you can make a horrible mess of the output just as easily as you can with a normalizer. trusting your ears is good.

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    RE: volume leveling 2007/05/01 11:52:21 (permalink)
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    RE: volume leveling 2007/05/01 12:04:12 (permalink)
    Especially then!!!

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    RE: volume leveling 2007/05/04 23:13:49 (permalink)
    Thanks for the advice. I did more cutting and pasting and ended up with fewer clips, which solved the problem for the most part, but I need to try the envelopes now that I think I see how they work. I tried normalizing but I couldn't hear any difference. The slight variations still seemed to be there.
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