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Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
I read somewhere that the Mackie MCU while can be used as a mixing controller in SONAR, the knobs cannot be reassigned to control things like synths -n- such. Does this hold true for the C4 expansion module as well? I'd like to add the C4 to use when working with synths and other plug-in's and wonder if it is compatable with the ACT feature in SONAR 6.
Anyone have and use the C4?
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John
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RE: Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
June 10, 07 10:02 PM
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I read somewhere that the Mackie MCU while can be used as a mixing controller in SONAR, the knobs cannot be reassigned to control things like synths -n- such You read wrong. The MC and C4 both can do what you say they can not do. Best John
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RE: Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
June 10, 07 10:17 PM
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Hmmm...now I'm thoroughly confused. I asked this about the MCU a while back and thought I had hit the wall...now I'm doing a bit of homework for the C4. In this thread, I was told that the MCU and ACT weren't compatable. I'm not real "strong" in the midi area so help a guy out and explain it for me please? Thanks
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RE: Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
June 10, 07 10:24 PM
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In this thread, I was told that the MCU and ACT weren't compatable I never said they were. The MC and C4 have their own dll and use a different method to do this. On the MC the knobs can be reassigned to any controlable plugin. This is automatic with a press of a button on the MC.. The C4 is just for this purpose with more knobs. Incompatable is the wrong way to put it. The MC has been doing this, working with plugins, for a very long time way before ACT came out. Best John
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RE: Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
June 10, 07 10:26 PM
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RE: Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
June 10, 07 10:33 PM
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He's actually partly right. The MCU still cannot control ynths that are loaded into the synth rack. And ACT doe not support motorized faders or LCD screens, so it's tough to get the best of all worlds right now.
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RE: Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
June 10, 07 10:38 PM
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No it does not support ACT but so what It has it's own way to access plugins . It really makes no real difference at all The MC can control any plugin that will expose its controllers to Sonar and thus to the MC. Not all plugins can be controlled either by ACT or the MC. It requirs the plugin to allow this.
Let me make this clear I have been doing this for years with the MC. Now I also have an M Audio key station Pro 88. I use ACT with it. I do not need to use ACT with the MC to do the same thing.
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RE: Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
June 10, 07 10:45 PM
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He's actually partly right. The MCU still cannot control ynths that are loaded into the synth rack. And ACT doe not support motorized faders or LCD screens, so it's tough to get the best of all worlds right now. You are right in the way you explain it but Bob Damiano of CW said was very misleading here. He has given incorrect info before. Not that it is that important. Just because a CS will not work with ACT does not mean it will not work as a supported device as it is supposed to. Best John
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RE: Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
June 10, 07 11:55 PM
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Actually you don't need the physical C4, you can download the C4 software from Mackie and have your plugins and some soft synths controlled by using the software alone. Check it out >> http://www.mackie.com/products/c4commander/ Mackie was kind enough to make thisavailable to everyone without them needing the actual Pysical C4. Now you can use your midi controller with it instead. Peace 
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RE: Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
June 11, 07 9:48 AM
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Gentlemen,
I sincerly thank you but for me not being quite as technical, could you tell me if this is a correct statement or not; ACT is a different way of accessing soft synth controls but not the only way, secondly, the C4 can be used but the LCD displays probably won't work.
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RE: Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
June 11, 07 11:31 AM
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ACT is a different way of accessing soft synth controls but not the only way Correct. Also ACT is new to ver 6 it has always been possible to remotely control plugins in Sonar going back to ver. 1. the C4 can be used but the LCD displays probably won't work. Not having a C4 I can't comment on this. But it seems on its face to be wrong. The C4 is just for this sort of thing and it should work as advertised. With the MC the parameters that are being controlled show in the LCD. This ability is one of the features of the MC family. Best John
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RE: Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
June 11, 07 12:49 AM
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Thanks a bunch for clearing that up for me. I'm not real "strong" in the area of MIDI and haven't really delved deeply into remote controls so I appreciate your tolerance and patience while I catch up. I've been a SONAR user for years and have been very pleased with my 2 year old MCU. It's worked flawlessly for me since SONAR 4. When ACT was released in ver. 6, I became interested and I'm trying to get familiar with it's uses. Thanks for the learning experience 
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RE: Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
June 11, 07 2:48 PM
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You are very welcome indeed! It is always good to help a fellow MC/MCU user.
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Re: RE: Mackie MCU C4 vs. ACT
January 24, 10 10:52 AM
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I have a controller roland vm 7200 and I can not get it to work with act, does not appear in the presets and there are the names of other controllers in SONAR 8, how can I do to create a preset for my controller roland vm 7200?? and how to configure it to make it working? Who can help maybe contact me via email francescogrecomusica@yahoo.it thanks
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