DigiBiu
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Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
Im recording a guy doing country, and he only plays acoustic. I need to find some pedal steel guitar samples or loops to use in the background. Anyone have any suggestions?
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/07 00:21:48
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I've looked at some steel guitar loops before, but haven't found anything that's really very usable. However, I know a great steel player that I've worked with before and I'm sure you could get him to play the parts for a pretty reasonable amount. He lives just outside of Nashville and another mutual friend of ours has a ProTools studio and they do a lot of long distance tracks for folks. I use them for for steel guitar, country lead guitar (Forrest Lee Jr is awesome country guitar) and they can also bring it great fiddle players, drummers, etc. Usually they can do an entire song for a few hundred bucks (for pretty much any country instrumentation). Anyway, if you're interested I can put you in touch with them. Martin is the Steel Guitar player....you can see him playing on this youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jOMB2M9piw And Forrest Lee Jr plays guitar and is a great country producer ...check out his youtube video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIzFo_UrD64 (yeah, that's me on bass....gotta get my plug in too ) Hope this helps...
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/07 00:25:50
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If you can edit realistic MIDI use a Jazz Guitar setting and assign each string to its own channel and track to independently control string bends.
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/07 00:33:27
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yeah.....i've tried using midi w/ Jazz Guitar sound before. We actually used a midi gtr as well to try and get a little more realism....and while you may be able to get some suitable pad sounds, I don't really think you can get anything that really approaches a real steel sound. The sound is more in the "cheese-o-rific" category IMHO ;-)
But if you can't find a steel player, it could work in a pinch. Another alternative is if you can find a tele player that knows how to use a b-bender and volume pedal....that combination can give you a pretty decent quasi steel sound.
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/07 00:41:16
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wwww.beathive.com...Search Loops...select "Guitars" then "Pedal Steel" only about 58 loops available but they may be useful.
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/07 00:56:05
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I wrote a long answer on how to emulate a pedal steel. Use the search engine here.
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/07 09:29:23
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I need to find some pedal steel guitar samples or loops to use in the background. Anyone have any suggestions? Smart Loops, Loops of Hazzard includes some steel guitar.
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/07 09:42:31
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call me crazy, but.... why not find a real steel player.
We have two "go to" guys in my area. Both are great. One has been doing since the begining of "pedals".
Pedal Steel players are usually consumate musicians. They will play their parts in single session and they ADD to the song.... not just fill in space.
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DigiBiu
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/07 14:00:45
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The reason I am not hiring anyone is I am doing this for free. This guy just graduated from high school, has absolutely no money, the most humble guy you can ever meet, and has an amazing voice, and wrote all of his own songs, and they are pretty good. So I am trying to do this with as little expense as possible
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The Maillard Reaction
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/07 14:14:04
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Help the guy out. Underwrite the cost of a musician.
paying a $100- recording fee to a musician seems reasonable... and if it helps this guy move forward then I bet it will come back to you in the big scheme of things. I don't see how corrupting his music with a steel fascimile is being as helpful. Just equate the $100 bucks to your time... it should be a cheap trade off in the big picture.
plus you'll be building a relationship with a steel player as well.
Just my opinion.
mike
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/07 14:33:17
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If you have a JV card compatible Roland keyboard or synth module, search ebay for the "Country Collection" JV card (SR-JV80-17). The samples are quite good for not only pedal steel, but also fiddle, and many other country instruments.
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Jim Roseberry
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/07 15:27:55
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I need to find some pedal steel guitar samples or loops to use in the background I don't think this is an area where loops would be very effective. I'd find a decent pedal steel player... and be done with it. You can spend hours fiddling with MIDI... and end up with mediocre (or worse) results.
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/07 16:29:55
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/08 22:04:40
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/08 22:09:05
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ORIGINAL: Seattle_Ray
I've looked at some steel guitar loops before, but haven't found anything that's really very usable. However, I know a great steel player that I've worked with before and I'm sure you could get him to play the parts for a pretty reasonable amount. He lives just outside of Nashville and another mutual friend of ours has a ProTools studio and they do a lot of long distance tracks for folks. I use them for for steel guitar, country lead guitar (Forrest Lee Jr is awesome country guitar) and they can also bring it great fiddle players, drummers, etc.
Usually they can do an entire song for a few hundred bucks (for pretty much any country instrumentation). Anyway, if you're interested I can put you in touch with them.
Martin is the Steel Guitar player....you can see him playing on this youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jOMB2M9piw
And Forrest Lee Jr plays guitar and is a great country producer ...check out his youtube video here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIzFo_UrD64 (yeah, that's me on bass....gotta get my plug in too )
Hope this helps...
Hi Seattle, Thanks so much for the links to the videos. These guys play fantastic! I especially like Forrest Lee's tele work. Wow! He plays that style as good as you can play it. I captured a couple of his lessons so I can learn some of those licks myself (on my '68 Tele, which I bought in 1968). GK
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/08 22:12:40
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I played pedal steel for 27 years, 8 of those as a session player in N'ville.
I've never heard anything other than a real live steel player that can pull it off in a believeable manner.
Just my 2¢...
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DigiBiu
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/08 23:03:05
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I know you guys all like to chime in, but I think my post was asking if anyone knew of any good pedal steel guitar samples, not "Do you guys think I should use a real pedal steel player?" Its simply out of the question, unless they are free, so enough already
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/09 00:52:41
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I was flippin' thru the cable channels a couple nights ago and saw an advert for a Guitar World sponsored lesson featuring Steve Morse. So I clicked on it. He teaches how to play pedal steel licks using a conventional electric guitar. He made it look easy and it sounded like the real thing but let me tell you... it's hard! He really stretches the heck out of those strings. He'll stretch a string a couple octaves whlie only bending the adjacent string one octave. Maybe you can catch that lesson and play yer own licks.
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The Maillard Reaction
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/09 07:47:32
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Tom Laskey
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/09 16:01:34
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Hi David Stuckey,
There is a decent pedal steel sample in Sonar TTS-1. After inserting synth pick a channel then go to the patch field (in the track midi track) and right click to pull up the patch browser and type in "pedal" to find it.
Tom Laskey
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/09 21:52:57
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/21 03:38:18
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/21 10:43:35
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Dave Modisette
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/21 12:14:20
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It could be compressed archive that will automatically expand or install itself. It is kind of creepy when you get "free EXEs".
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tparker24
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/21 13:59:54
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There's a nice free pedal steel soundfont at http://www.personalcopy.com/sfonts.htm
Um . . . why is a Soundfont file in an .EXE format? What's up with that?
It's in an old PKSFX zipped format which when you run the EXE, unpacks into an .SFPACK file ... which you'll then need to unpack with SFPACK into a usable .SF2 file.
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RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2007/06/22 17:30:58
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Hey David,
I might be able to help out. I play steel.
Keith
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Re: RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2013/08/29 00:03:00
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Tom Laskey
There is a decent pedal steel sample in Sonar TTS-1. After inserting synth pick a channel then go to the patch field (in the track midi track) and right click to pull up the patch browser and type in "pedal" to find it.
I have just used that a little bit in a project and it sounds pretty authentic if you get the intervals and pitch bends the way a pedal steel player would do that.
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Re: RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2013/08/29 00:07:00
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Yeah, TTS-1 probably has not changed much since 2007
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Re: RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2013/08/31 14:48:33
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I play pedal steel, I'll give you some parts for free.
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Re: RE: Pedal Steel Guitar Samples
2013/08/31 16:19:13
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At the risk of offending a real pedal steel player, the track I MIDIed some pedal steel notes into is here: http://bordogni.info/2013/08/volume-1-14/ Please don't shoot me for insulting all the real P.S. players out there. I was just having a little fun. But I'd appreciate any comments from a real player as to whether you think this is anywhere close to what a real player might do. To me, it sounds OK. To a real player it probably sounds cartoonish. --- On edit, let me provide some background. The concept behind that website is to take these famous practice etudes, composed 150 years ago, and set them to accompaniments in a variety of styles to make them more fun to practice. As soon as I played the melody for that particular one, I knew it had to be country. A trombonist colleague of mine wrote today Knowing that I'm allergic to country music, I took a chance, thinking it might be a joke, and clicked on it. O My God! that is Awfull!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I've got to wash my ears out with some Charlie Parker. I'm not sure if that means I was completely successful or if I failed. But I am glad I was able to irritate him a little. And for the record, I don't change a single note that Bordogni wrote, so I'd like to think that if he were alive today, he'd be happy to be jamming with a great country band with real pedal steel players and everything. :) Back in the day, I did a bit of recording for local bands, adding horn sections to their tunes. There was one guy, and I can't recall his name now, who was an amazing P.S. player. I loved to just watch him. That can be such a creative instrument. Sometimes he would do French Horn pads with his P.S. and I swear I couldn't tell them from the real thing.
post edited by cparmerlee - 2013/08/31 16:35:20
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