MPL-1 Pro SE - Precision Limiter from Kjaerhus Audio

It is with great pleasure that we introduce the MPL-1 Pro Second Edition!

The MPL-1 Pro SE is a new edition of the awarded Mastering Precision Limiter, now available for both PC Windows and Mac OSX in VST/AU/RTAS format.

You can read about it here:

http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/mpl-1.php

Enjoy :)

Torben

Mostly that it is available for OSX and in AU/RTAS format as well. But besides this:

1. You can enter parameter values directly.

2. You can select MIDI CC channel.

3. When using dithering the output is now quantisized, so you know you hear what you get.

4. Comes in a Mono version as well (saves CPU if you want it on a mono track).

Torben

I can give you that histogram: 0 Overs! ;)

Torben

I can give you that histogram: 0 Overs! ;)

OK, yes, that's true after the fact :-) But what would have been....

The problem with a separate tool though is that the stats are meaningless outside of the actual limiter because only there will you actually know what really got chopped off. The external tool could do a 'normalize to +X' and then see what would clip, and that would be good for going back in the mix and knocking them down via automation or tighter compression attack and whatnot, but it wouldn't help you in the actual final limiting stage to know really how much of what was required to be clipped, because only the limiter you use and it's particular algorithm will know how much it actually had to do, and in that paritcular case I think that the whole song as it would have been limited is the appropriate span of the data collection but of course if the tool just always cleared the histogram on start of playback and collected till stopped, you could use it easily enough to evaluate a particular section of the piece.

Anyway, maybe it's still not that useful, but I always think that more info is better than less. Better to have it and not want to look at, than to want to look at it and not have it.

That's a silly exaggeration. They can be very helpful for those who know anything about limiting, even when the exact algorithm is unclear.

Well you don't even need a tool to know that something sticking up 6dB higher than the rest of the content needs to be knocked down to get the rest up. I didn't mean to imply that it's useless in general, but that it's not going to tell exactly what the limiter is going to do when you limit it, because that depends on various configurable settings in the limiter.

I never understand this whole thing, which comes up often, where people seem to react strongly against just information being available. If you don't want to use it, don't use it. If you do, it's there. That's what computers are for. It's pretty straightforward for them to collection information and make it available visually. How can you argue against more information when you don't even have to use it if you don't want to?

If the design of your particular plugin would make it very hard to collect this information, then don't do it. But if that analysis has already been done in order to do the limiting correctly, and from the reading the Kjaerhus info it sounds like it would have this information, though it may not have been designed such that the collecting of it is practical, then storing it and making it available seems a logical step to me. I can make use of that information should I choose to. Ok, I see that after bring it up in Audigy and normalizing it up to +whatever and finding the peaks and knocking them down, that I still have a fairly number of clips that are more than x samples in size, maybe I want to back off on the limiter threshold a little bit. It's just data. It won't hurt you.

That's a bit of a non sequitur in this thread. You might want to start another thread on that subject.

[Edited to keep mother off my back due to spelling errors]

ORIGINAL: Kjaerhus

It is with great pleasure that we introduce the MPL-1 Pro Second Edition!

The MPL-1 Pro SE is a new edition of the awarded Mastering Precision Limiter, now available for both PC Windows and Mac OSX in VST/AU/RTAS format.

You can read about it here:

http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/mpl-1.php

Enjoy :)

Torben

Hi Torben ,
wow , its good to see you guys posting over here.....
I love the MPL-1 Pro and I consider it to be one of my favorite plugs period...
also love the VC 64 ....I hope some day to afford bail to get it out of SONAR house arrest and get a version of the the plug to use in other apps..
got the e mail yesterday about the SE update ,
updated my MPL -1 Pro to SE a couple of hours ago ,
havnt had the chance to check out the the diff yet ...
I'm looking foward to it though

Edit...well I did install and register the update....
now when I go to save a SONAR projet using The MPL -1 Pro SE
SONAR encounters an error and closes down ....
it dosent do that with the original MPL-1 Pro , only the new updated SE over here
hhmmm, any sugestions?

thanks
Kenny

Huh? I'm in the automation software business. He's in the limiter software business. I bought his product, and I'm just proposing a new feature be added, something that is well within my rights as a customer. If Cakewalk came back to you with that kind of answer when you proposed a new feature to SONAR (which may very well not be convenient or easy for them to implement), what would you think? I'm kind of having trouble getting my head around your attitude about this. I spend the bulk of my waking hours implementing things that are very inconvenient for me to achive, and for which I personally would have no use, but which make my customers happy because they do have a use for it. It's not their responsiblity to just want easy features.