ACT question re: bus output settings

You could set the bus output to "none" and use 2 sends instead, one set to main-out 1-2, the other to 3-4.

There seems to be no way to toggle send on/off via ACT. You can control the level of one send and group it with the other to crossfade, although it seems not to work very well regarding the level ranges. Also, you'd have to set ACT to "Channel strip" in order to control multiple sends with one rotaries bank. And you always need to switch ACT control from tracks to buses.

I think the easiest way would be to use remote control. Enable one send and set up remote for both sends with the same controller/button on your PCR. The button will then toggle the send-enable with each press. HTH

werner

Thanks for the ideas...keep 'em coming. I'm going to seee what I can put together with this info so far tomorrow.

I had thought about the idea of using sends, which is just as good, just a little different, but I hadn't thought of the remote option for toggling the enables on them, one starting in "on" position, so to create an always one on one off...anyway - I'll take a look in the morning how this will work.

And here's another frustration. I tried setting only one with the remote control and then doing them as a "group" as well and doing the when one is 0 an, the other is 1, and vice-versa at the Group Manager level - behaves the same way as setting both for the same remote control command.

I also tried grouping the volumes in an inverse relationship and setting them to go value 0-101 (which makes the top end 0.0db), but whichever one of the two volume sliders gets the remote control (in this case cc:16) will always go from -inf to +6.0, regardless of what I set the value to - and then it would be back to trying to get the Edirol to even hold onto the custom control changes (it was a little flaky on wanting to hold onto the button/pad being a note number when in DNAP mode, sometimes just dropping back to cc:80), and in this case it would be a rotary, and then I would have to exclude the whole bank of rotaries from ACT, since they don't allow the option on a per-knob basis.

I hate these sorts of "almost there" issues.

And another update - so I found that it being on that rotary, and still under ACT control, as well as a "remote control" it was doing double-duty. It just so happens that in "multichannel-rotary mode" there is nothing assigned to Rotary 8, and there is a button (B1) that is a toggle between Channel Strip Mode and Multi-channel mode. So I can hit the toggle, turn the rotary all the way to one direction or the other and hear sound from only there.

Works...but it's weird. I want the button thing to work - again, shows on screen that the status of the busses are changing, but doesn't affect an actual audio change unless clicked with the mouse. Grr.

yeah - well that's a bummer of a bug that seems pretty fixable, eh? Oh well, it's not critical, even just having the master volume on a dedicated slider is pretty handy, though if this volume crossfade between the two continues to work, it'll be a fine workaround until this (hopefully) gets fixed. Would also be nice to maybe use that crossfade slider for this - will have to see if that can be taken off the pan function.

So I guess since 5 out of the 8 posts in this thread are my own, no one else really has an issue with this?  It this the only place where the midi remote control doesn't work right?  or is it just the only place the doesn't work and I happened only to need the one part that fails?
 
Do you understand what I'm trying to do here?  I have two outs on my Layla 3g.  The headphones are out #1, the monitors are attached to out #2.  So I switch the main out to point to the two different outs on the sound card.  But to do this requires that I pull up the master bus and make the change.  It would be nice to be able to do this with a button on my controller.
 
This "switch on and off" the bus sends seemed like a perfect way to do it, but it just doesn't work when triggered from an external button - fine from the mouse, and from an external button, looks right, just DOES nothing.
 
Thoughts?

I don't use ACT and not many of the X series posters visit this forum. This forum is for older pre-X series versions of SONAR. Maybe re-posting in the X forum would generate a reply or two.

Several observations:

1. Switching on/off sends reset my audio engine, if done too fast, SONAR freeze...
2. Doing so using CS API (I use my "AZ Controller" plug-in) works (while "Remote control" not, as you have discovered). So, the API is not broken in that respect. I do not know other plug-ins which can be configured such way, so that is not your way (till you want test AZC...)
3. But toggling "Mute" on masters works as expected in AZC and with "Remote control"! I set "Master" (Bus) output to 1/2 and one send from it to 3/4. Then I have muted 3/4. "Remote control..." one button for all 4 mutes. Then it toggles all 4 correctly. Also "Mute" does not reset the engine in my case and I had no freezes in my short test (even toggling many times per second).