speed of live?

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2007/07/29 13:07:25 (permalink)

speed of live?

if cd sample rate is 44.1 at 16 bit...then what would the sample rate of live music be and what bit depth?

also...whats the speed of dark?

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    Honest_Al
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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/29 13:14:16 (permalink)
    if cd sample rate is 44.1 at 16 bit...then what would the sample rate of live music be and what bit depth?

    also...whats the speed of dark?


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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/29 13:24:21 (permalink)
    then what would the sample rate of live music be and what bit depth?

    The same. The reason music dudes use these numbers is because that's how they appear in nature. Sonic purity is realized once you cross the "Nyquist Principle" of 18.93kHz (which is really just a fancy way of saying "cheese"). As for bit rate, when we listen to stuff, we only hear "bits and pieces" of what is actually present in the audio spectrum. We can't hear everything, since we would go crazy if we did. So our brains have separated the "listening lobe" into 17 parts. We take 16 of the "bits and pieces, or "bits"" we actually hear, and process them in these 16 cerebral enclosures according to height. Then we "transformatize" them into one coherent whole which is processed in the 17th enclosure and sent to the ears. Anything the ears don't like, they turn into wax. Hence the eversteady Q-tip market exists for humans, but not for other life forms such as crocodiles and cheetahs (they can't hear...their "5th" sense is "sensed" by "sensory sensors" in their upper/lower lip/intestine.") So you see, "all that is sounded is not heard," to quote the famous 17th century bar-hopper, Caren Karpenter...
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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/29 13:26:10 (permalink)
    now i am dizzy and must sit...

    "5 out of 4 people have a problem with fractions..."

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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/29 13:28:46 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: dantesjuice
    also...whats the speed of dark?


    Simple - plug a lamp into an outlet that's controlled by a wall switch across the room. Measure the distance between the lamp and switch.

    Now get a stopwatch - turn the switch off/start the stopwatch at the same moment. When it gets dark where you are, stop the stopwatch.

    Do the math - and get back to us with the results.........


    Ric
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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/29 13:34:02 (permalink)
    also...whats the speed of dark?

    Do the math - and get back to us with the results.........

    I tried this twice. Once I got -c. Once I got 1/c. And the third time I got mail.
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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/29 13:44:41 (permalink)
    i bumped my head on the lamp crawling around on the floor in the dark looking for my stopwatch...

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    i see...iv found a very basic equation for this fundamental process in nature...

    OF COURSE!!! what was i thinking...it all seems so elementry now.

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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/29 13:47:44 (permalink)
    speed of live


    Just ditch it! Soundblasters have no speed..unless i'm wrong and the "what u hear" turns that on.
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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/29 14:04:16 (permalink)
    Right well live is usually sampled at room temperature, so taking into account the alcoholic beverage absorption coefficient and then factoring in the long haired rocker variables I would recommend using 48/24 bites, you can try chewing, but that is of course optional.

    The speed of dark can be calculated with some easily obtainable materials

    1) Yourself
    2) A common or garden wall
    3) A chronograph that retains its last measurement.

    Run against the wall head first at a slow speed, gradually keep speeding up your runs untill you achieve unconsciouness, when you wake up the last measurement in teh chronograph is your own personal speed of dark.

    Enjoy
    (kids don't try this at home it is only for qualified sound experts)

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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/29 14:10:31 (permalink)
    The same. The reason music dudes use these numbers is because that's how they appear in nature. Sonic purity is realized once you cross the "Nyquist Principle" of 18.93kHz (which is really just a fancy way of saying "cheese"). As for bit rate, when we listen to stuff, we only hear "bits and pieces" of what is actually present in the audio spectrum. We can't hear everything, since we would go crazy if we did. So our brains have separated the "listening lobe" into 17 parts. We take 16 of the "bits and pieces, or "bits"" we actually hear, and process them in these 16 cerebral enclosures according to height. Then we "transformatize" them into one coherent whole which is processed in the 17th enclosure and sent to the ears. Anything the ears don't like, they turn into wax. Hence the eversteady Q-tip market exists for humans, but not for other life forms such as crocodiles and cheetahs (they can't hear...their "5th" sense is "sensed" by "sensory sensors" in their upper/lower lip/intestine.") So you see, "all that is sounded is not heard," to quote the famous 17th century bar-hopper, Caren Karpenter...



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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/29 14:43:24 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: dantesjuice
    also...whats the speed of dark?

    Oh, that´s an easy one - white light is all colours & black is none, i.e. has no speed at all - if you meant different shades of dark, now that´s errm, well, duh......I´ve got to go & watch the dishwasher now, very urgent, don´t want to miss the evening entertainment.......
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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/29 14:46:12 (permalink)
    The speed of dark is directly related to the strength of the G-forces administered from a good uppercut to the jaw.
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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/29 16:11:07 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: dantesjuice

    if cd sample rate is 44.1 at 16 bit...then what would the sample rate of live music be and what bit depth?

    also...whats the speed of dark?


    the sample rate of live is a variable rate directly proportional to the frequency of the sound of which the bit depth is infinite, but for practical purposes, as high as the current technology can support, so it also varies over time.

    the speed of infinite dark is 0, however, in a black hole can be -0+x

    to add, the relevancy of the answers are directly proportional to the relevancy of the questions with a tolerance factor of x.

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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/29 20:13:31 (permalink)
    I'm pretty sure the speed of dark is 88mph
    in a Delorean
    I saw it in a movie once
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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/30 01:02:11 (permalink)
    I believe the theory is it has to be moving ahead of light.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0345481399/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-3627520-2077665#reader-link

    It's actually pretty good.





    post edited by gnie - 2007/07/30 01:13:54
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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/30 02:18:58 (permalink)
    Oops! See my next post. This one disapparated, for some reason...
    post edited by Susan G - 2007/07/30 02:37:53

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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/30 02:29:54 (permalink)
    Hi Gregory-
    ORIGINAL: jinga8

    then what would the sample rate of live music be and what bit depth?

    The same. The reason music dudes use these numbers is because that's how they appear in nature. Sonic purity is realized once you cross the "Nyquist Principle" of 18.93kHz (which is really just a fancy way of saying "cheese"). As for bit rate, when we listen to stuff, we only hear "bits and pieces" of what is actually present in the audio spectrum. We can't hear everything, since we would go crazy if we did. So our brains have separated the "listening lobe" into 17 parts. We take 16 of the "bits and pieces, or "bits"" we actually hear, and process them in these 16 cerebral enclosures according to height. Then we "transformatize" them into one coherent whole which is processed in the 17th enclosure and sent to the ears. Anything the ears don't like, they turn into wax. Hence the eversteady Q-tip market exists for humans, but not for other life forms such as crocodiles and cheetahs (they can't hear...their "5th" sense is "sensed" by "sensory sensors" in their upper/lower lip/intestine.") So you see, "all that is sounded is not heard," to quote the famous 17th century bar-hopper, Caren Karpenter...

    You, sir, are a very imaginative and clever man! I love reading your posts.

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    RE: speed of live? 2007/07/30 12:40:41 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: ricstudioc
    ORIGINAL: dantesjuice
    also...whats the speed of dark?

    Simple - plug a lamp into an outlet that's controlled by a wall switch across the room. Measure the distance between the lamp and switch.
    Now get a stopwatch - turn the switch off/start the stopwatch at the same moment. When it gets dark where you are, stop the stopwatch.
    Do the math - and get back to us with the results.........


    I tried this, but it was too dark to see what the stopwatch said.

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