Latin song new mix hoping final made in Sonar 7

Shades of Jobim/Gilberto! Sra. Challub does indeed have a lovely voice. However, I think there's considerably too much delay on her voice, it literally sounds like an echo behind her. The mix might use some work. Occasionally it sounds like there's some percussion, but it's really buried. The guitar work is nice, but not as clear as it could be. If there's a bass line I can't hear it. It seems to be suggested by the guitar more than anything. As far as the song itself: it sounds very good, just the mix needs work.
Mark

Dan, really nice latin tune and that is one beautiful voice. I would also recommend de-essing the voice a little if you can, and pulling it back in the mix slightly. Not sure if you can de-ess it at this point. Other than that, I agree with all that Mark already suggested. This is some great work though, just needs a little polishing on the mix.

DuRod

Dan - Is that you playing guitar? Shame that she sent you her vox with that verb on it. Sweet tune tho'.

lhansen,
yes I played all instruments except some of the canned arpeggios on the drums and bass from the Yamaha Motif.

as far as the voice here is a bit of the raw vocals that I originally received, see if you guys think that I can improve it or some technique to mold it.
Raw Vocal Clip

On the drums I really don't want to record 17 audio trks so i will just group what seems to make sense.

I found this on one website: does it sound right?
Kick: Center
Snare: Center
Toms: Left - Center - Right
Cymbals: Left - Right
Hats: Half Right


Dan

Another useful plug-in for 'drying-up' vocals is Voxengo MSED (free too!) Bill Davies put me on to that one, worked nicely.

Voxengo MSED

I'll have to play with that plug-in, I also found a free deesser program which has improved the sibbilance issues.

Yes she does get flat at times, i may ask for a re-record, part of it could be her uneasiness with singing English.

thanks for taking a look at the song.

Dan

in trying to use V-vocal the auto correct does not seem to do much,

one area I have question about if anyone can comment is this example:

I noticed this alot with own singing too as your breath exhausts the note starts to fall,

so on this piece that I'm working her vocals will "fall off"
but in v-vocal I don't see a correction graph of that part of the phrase, so there is nothing to grab and move to correct the dying note.

would a fade out be more appropriate in those cases or a time shift to shorten the phrase?


I got the vocalist to send me a new take and there are elements that are better and some worse in terms of performance and quality of sound, so I will probably use the multiple takes to create a good comp.

the Spitfish deessing plug-in seems so so or I'm not using it well.

also got the Voxengo MSED plugin and it is pretty good at drying up the track but it seems the loss in overall gain is a factor


in removing breaths from a vocal track what are you guys doing in terms of that, I have been basically muting those sections but it is time consuming.

One more question --- to break the vocals into separate clips anyone have a good setting to use the "remove silence" feature.

sorry for all the questions but I'm not smarter than a 5th grader...

Dan

Hey, Dan. Nice tune. Missed it the first time, but listened to the first mix, read through the comments, and then listened to the final mix. Definite improvement on the placement, EQ and reverb on the vocal. Sibilence and pitch are still issues, and there's an odd "flanginess" in places that probably resulted from the processing to fix those problems. You get an A for your efforts to save it, but what it probably really needs is another take... or two.

The arrangement, playing and clarity of the guitars in the mix is the best part. Nice work there. Some of the percussion is still getting lost; it seems to especially to want a more distinct back beat. And the end is a little abrupt; I'm wanting to hear one final percussion beat on the one of the next bar with a bass note and a sustained guitar chord to finish it out.