variaxman
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RStar
Here is a little tune I am collabarating on with a lyricist....having a hard time with the mix..there is 4 tracks of electric guitar, a track of acoustic guitar, bass and drums,also lead and backing vocals...to my ears...the bass guitar and drums are really fighting for space and seem kinda muddy...need to give my ears a break and thought it would be helpful to hear others opinions/feedback... here is a streaming link: RStar And a download: RStar-Download
post edited by variaxman - 2007/11/18 20:08:16
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bitflipper
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If the bass and drums were fighting, it appears that the drums have won. I couldn't hear a lot of bass happening in there, and that's the main thing I think the song needs.
If you're having trouble getting the bass up in the mix without clashing with the kick, try rolling off the bottom below 80-100Hz and boost around 300Hz or so. A harmonic exciter can add some midrange to the bass so it cuts through better without having to be as loud.
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DuRod
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Very good song instrumentally  , but I can't really understand the lyrics, so I can't comment on them  . Would maybe think about kicking up the drums and bass a little. Some great guitar work and composition. Play with it and then let's hear version 2. Good stuff. DuRod
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AsherLongley
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Immediately the song sounds like it's muffled under a pillow. Have you tried using the Vintage VST for your guitar tracks and even the drums? I've used the Vintage "Master Mix" preset on the Master channel and that's really helped out some of my songs - polished them off rather well.
It sounds like the guitar in the left channel is either too hot or needs some EQ adjustment to bring down some mid to mid-high frequencies.
Also, the bass could get some help by doing an expand/compress trick with X-Cita VST (free download).
Hi energy and true to your style. Nice work. I will forward to hearing an update.
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mcourter
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V, the song has lots of energy and drive, and as usual very good guitar work. But I don't think the mix is up to your usual standards. The bass is almost not there, the kick sounds wooden, guitars sound muddy and indistinct. I speak as one who typically admires your work. I get the 80s thing here, but as a composition your work is usually much more unique and distinctly yours. Maybe your ears were tired, it happens to me. JMHO. My lesser experience may be taken into consideration.
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Randy P
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Kickin tune here Vman, but I agree with some of the others about the mix. I'm not sure where to tell you to start, but I'll try. The vocals dont seem to have any presence in the mix. Perhaps you can try getting a good clear drum and bass mix, then bring the vocals in and eq them to fit with the drums and bass. Then eq and pan the guitars to fit into the mix. Just a suggestion. I like this tune and look forward to hearing your finished version.
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Hi V,
Great song, wonderful energy about it, really cracks along. The vocals remind me of Peter Gabriel's 1st & 2nd solo albums, 'Animal Magic' 'On The Air', that kind thing...I think it's that loose double tracking, sounds nice.
So, mix-wise I think everyone above has said it, it is very muddy. I'd maybe get busy with the hi-pass filters for a start, and try and get the bass up there, this song could use a really upfront bass guitar.
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variaxman
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New mix: Streaming download Hi guys...thanks for all the great feedback! It seems the underlying theme here is a lack of bass guitar, and overall muddy mix....I have attempted to take the advice given and maker corrections....per bitflipper, I cut a bit off the bass @ 90hz, and boosted at 300 hz...tried to make the vocals clearer by removing almost all the reverb on the lead vocal, (I left a bit on the backing), as suggested by DuRod....adjusted the level of the left side guitar, and tried to genrally add some high end sparkle to the overall mix....for some reason I am having a hard time getting any of my vst plugins to work, I really want to try the plugins AsherLongley mentoined... mcouter,thanks for the kind words...I did post this one earlier in its development than I usually post my songs...so it is really rough,it's the ist thing I have recorded in some time so I was pretty excited to get back at it,but my ears are more outta wack than usual  rsp@odyssey.net,great advice, I did try to take it back to bass and drums and slowly bring evreything back in... jamesg1213Wow...thanks for the Peter Gabriel refrence...definetly one of my favorite vocalist!!Check out my new mix and let me know if some of the mud is gone!
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CBman
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Hey Variaxman,
I listened to the 2 versions, and it's a already a lot better !! I like the song. The low end still needs some work : bass guitar is still a bit to much in the back of the mix, and the kick still sounds tiny, but your on the right track now !
Bye,
Cbman.
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variaxman
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Hey Variaxman,
I listened to the 2 versions, and it's a already a lot better !! I like the song. The low end still needs some work : bass guitar is still a bit to much in the back of the mix, and the kick still sounds tiny, but your on the right track now !
Bye,
Cbman.
Thanks CBman...I think I have a pretty agressive bass guitar tone on this to start with this...was kinda shooting for a Chris Squire/Geddy Lee trably "lead bass" kinda sound....I will try and fatten it up a bit...thanks for the feedback!!
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