Noob mixing question

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2008/01/17 09:55:31 (permalink)

Noob mixing question

I've managed to avoid flooding the forum with tons of questions simply by cruising thru the forum at every opportunity to see if a topic has already been brought up and answered. The contributors have done a wonderful job of keeping noobs like me from drowning. I've run into a little problem that I thought I saw in a thread a while ago, but I'll be dipped in that familiar substance if I can find it again...

I got HSH6 last fall, and I've since added Dim Pro and Session Drummer 2 to fill in the instrument/synth selection. I've been trying to bring some life into a pile of old MIDI files that I generated years ago using QuickScore Elite. On one of my projects, I found a need to "widen" the sound of an instrument. I've played endlessly with panning, but it still sounds like a big instrument tucked into a small box, and I'm just moving the box around. Session Drummer has the ability to "widen" a drum kit, I think by spreading out the pan on the individual drums, but it's the only tool that I've got that seems to have that capability. Does Sonar have a function that can widen a voice, or do I have to do it the hard way by making a copy of the track, panning one copy right and one copy left to fill the "stage"? If I have to do that, am I going to run into problems with phase/cancellation?

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    fep
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    RE: Noob mixing question 2008/01/17 10:43:29 (permalink)
    I'd try:

    1) Bounce the midi to audio (Edit/Bounce to tracks) and then add a stereo delay and/or a stereo reverb and/or stereo chorus in the effects bin (or an effects bin of a bus) or

    2) Bounce the midi to audio (Edit/Bounce to tracks) and then clone it and nudge the clone about 7ms and then pan the two tracks to opposite sides of each other. And then you can also play with effects on the two tracks (experiment around, maybe delay and reverb on one and just reverbo on the other or... whatever)
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    RE: Noob mixing question 2008/01/17 10:44:38 (permalink)
    I bought "The Art of Mixing" by David Gibson. It's an amazing book, and helped a lot trying to mix properly.
    It'll probably help you too. And it will also second Fep's advice...
    post edited by Slugbaby - 2008/01/17 10:59:51

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    RE: Noob mixing question 2008/01/17 11:38:37 (permalink)
    Thanks much for the response. I've done some cloning on other mixes. I had a piece with a string section that sounded like a dozen violinists sitting on each other's laps in a single chair, so I cloned the midi track a couple of times, dropped one of them an octive, bounced to audio tracks and panned them apart. It wasn't too much of a chore, but I was hoping that Sonar had a function that I was overlooking that would let me avoid that little task. My current project uses an organ voice that I need to fill out a deep-left to deep-right area, like one of those awe-inspiring cathedral organs that occupy an entire wall in a big building. Cloning a track would be a snap. It's the subsequent tweaking to keep the sound from bunching up too much in one area that will drive me nuts.

    Thanks for the heads-up on the book, though I suspect that I might be getting a little closer to a divorce if I dare to bring in another few pounds to add to the piles (the floor is creaking under the load)

    Jim 

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