ran out of soft synth insertables

there's a limit on how many you can use in MC4, but I don't know what that limit is. try bouncing one of them to an audio track and archiving the MIDI and synth output track, deleting that softsynth from the synth rack and see if your menu option is available again.

MC only hold 8 in the synth rack

deleting the tracks won't help, you have to delete the softsynths from the SYNTH RACK.

thank you folks. that does the trick. so, my reason for going with this question to begin with is that the Drop Zone and Triangle II Soft Synth seem to only allow one sound instance per soft synth insert. i cannot get them to assign sounds to other midi channels without having to insert another instance of DZ or T2. My terminology is probably all over the map here but the best example i can share is that what the CW TTS is able to do, per GuitarHacker's/Beagle's instructions (inserting one instance of CW TTS, then assigning multiple sounds to multiple channels using the one instance of the TTS), DZ and T2 cannot seem to do. I have looked at the on-line literature and am not getting any help there. I have one instance of DZ inserted and 2 different midi tracks with 2 different sounds assigned to each but I am only getting one sound, or the other, during play depending on which track is solo-ed.

wisdom here? I am feeling like DZ and T2 are different animals than CW TTS, which may be obvious to others but i am very new at this. much thanks.

I don't use Drop Zone and Triangle.....just TTS......and now,...sound fonts.

thanks all. consider me educated on this subject. the only thing left that is confusing me but i'm sure could be easily answered by you all: DZ is a great tool for sampling and playing back user created sounds. The TTS and T2 have, what, 128 different sounds each? but i can't seem to locate them in any of the software packaging to be tinkered with in the DZ program. Where do TTS and T2 "hide" their sounds in the software? Are they not set up as wav (or other compatible) file extensions?

And then, why could one not import user created sounds into a TTS bank to be used by the TTS?

RobertB: sorry, did you say something? my hearing seems to be on the fritz.

understood. I see the default bank and its patches for the TTS. Why could one not assign a different bank to the TTS? Is it not possible to control another bank, created elsewhere, by the TTS? GH refers to "sound fonts." Are these triggered by the TTS or a different controller?

Sound fonts are usually wave recordings of real instruments that are triggered by midi data. So, if you have a piano part, with a steinway grand sound font, the piano you hear is an actual steinway grand piano. Lots of instruments available for free, and you need the free sound font player beagle mentions, inserts the same as a midi instrument, very cool.
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Albert

Synths such as my Yamaha's, using the instrument definition for it, I have 6 different banks, plus GM, but not all the slots are patches, some are numbers, placeholders waiting to be filled. But it does give me more, better sounds than GM, and when you add the other soft synths, the world is my orchestra.

GM has 127 patches, GM2 had 254, on Yamaha keyboards you also have the option of XG patch maps, this is Yamaha's version of GM, they usually have 128 patches, due to not using "0" I think they too have an extended mapping of 256.

One of the reasons Sound Fonts sound better than Gm sets is usually they have larger, more layered samples, as the GM samples are built to be compact and easy to use.