Truckermusic
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Roland GK-3 guitar midi pick up
I have a burning question ......I have a used Schecter classic c1 electric which I love.....however the pick ups seem to not be putting out as much out put as a new one..(I was trying out a new one over the week end and it was just killer).....So I'm thinking of having them rewired or just putting in some new ons...but which ones........
ALSO I was thinking about getting a Roland GK-3 midi pick up for this instrument.....I think I would like to get the hard wired version.......
Here's my burning question......If I had this GK-3 internal hard wired version put into my c1 classic......would I really need to get the Roland GR20 gutiar synth?
My quest is to turn my guitar playing into MIDI information into my sonar projects......
However I also am wondering if I could use this set up to control my vst plug in synth's as well.......
Does any one know once I have the roland p/u installed could I controll my vst synths with out the external GR20 syntrh box??????????????
anyinformation would be appreciated.
thank you
Cliff
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chipstar
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RE: Roland GK-3 guitar midi pick up
April 28, 08 4:28 AM
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Yo Truckermusic, I have an internal GK-3 in a Fender Strat. While it is not required that you have a GR-20, you will need synth processor of some kind to transmit MIDI data to the computer. I use a VG-99 to send data via a MIDI cable or through the USB port. I hppe that this helps. Also be aware that there as some hidden issues with the install of the GK-3. For example, it is confirmed that a part is missing from the GK kits. You can install the pickup without it but it is clearly referenced in the documentation yet it is not present. Just so you know, the cheapest install of a GK system in the country as far as my research goes is at the Sam Ash in Tampa, Fla for $200. The guy does 3 day turnaround and even with shipping, its a great deal. Mine cost so much I don't even want to mention it. You can go to this site, http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php , to ask all of the GK related questions that you might have as Sustainiac is the 'god' of guitar synths. Best of luck. later, Chipstar
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Truckermusic
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RE: Roland GK-3 guitar midi pick up
April 28, 08 7:17 AM
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Chipster
thank you for the information.......and the fact that I live in the Tampa area and the Sam Ash store.....(You are talking about the one on Dale Mabry correct?...because there are two of them ...one is on McMullen Booth in Clearwater and one is on Dale Mabry in Tampa......just to be clear)
I just woke up yesterday with that question rolling around my head all day because on Sat. Afternoon I was a t Guitar Center and tried one out for the first time.
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RE: Roland GK-3 guitar midi pick up
April 28, 08 8:01 AM
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Cliff I use the GI-20 by Roland to control synths.
I makes no sounds on it's on. User sets it up for different things such as picking style. May want to check it out.
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Truckermusic
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RE: Roland GK-3 guitar midi pick up
April 28, 08 5:25 PM
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spacey
so your saying that Your GI-20 is just a triggering device?
because I think that's what I'm looking for......I do not think I want another synth....have my hands full already.....but I just want to convert my guitar playing into midi information.
I will check that unit out.....thanks
Cliff
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RE: Roland GK-3 guitar midi pick up
April 29, 08 1:42 AM
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Truckermusic,
I can ask for you to get the exact location. I'll also get the individuals name. Regarding the GI-20, it is just a MIDI converter and it could a cost effective solution for you. I'll be in touch.
later,
Chipstar
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RE: Roland GK-3 guitar midi pick up
April 29, 08 10:41 AM
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Clif, like Chipstar says, it's a converter but it's cool in that there are parameters that you can set.
It's not just plug in and play. You need to read the manual so you can set it as you need.
It's not perfect...you have to pick clean and deliberate. Everytime I use it I have to edit the midi file. It always picks up something
from my playing I didn't want. No big deal though. The sweet thing is that it links your guitar to the PC.
I use it with Spectrasonics "Atmosphere" and "Trilogy" and have a great time.
I have the old VG-8 and GR-30 and haven't used them since I got the GI-20.
There may be other units that do the same thing but I've had no reason to look so don't know.
Hope I've helped ya,
Michael
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Truckermusic
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RE: Roland GK-3 guitar midi pick up
April 29, 08 11:22 AM
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Chipster and Spacey
Thank you for all your help.....I appreciate it.....
I took a look at that VG-99 and It is out of my rang right now.......but like I said, I think that all I want is a Midi converter and then try to control my synths from that point......
I will look into your suggestions.......because I think spacey is closer to what I want and more with in my means right now......( I just finished rehabbing my music room and studio with gear an all) ... but spacey if you are ever wanting to sell your GR-30 I would entertain the though of buying it>>>>>> Just a thought.
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RE: Roland GK-3 guitar midi pick up
April 29, 08 11:57 AM
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be aware that the midi triggering capability is a little different than driving one of roland's guitar synths. direct to synth will give better results than the translation to midi. but the current batch of roland guitar synths are very limited in sounds and programmability.
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Truckermusic
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RE: Roland GK-3 guitar midi pick up
April 29, 08 3:14 PM
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RU
thanks for that info because I was wondering about that! I played a GK-3 thru a GR-20 over the week end for the first time in my life (first guitar synth) and at first it seemed fantastic!...but as I sat there and played that thought of programability and sounds crept into my mind......but I still liked it!!!!!! the sounds that were there were good!
Cliff
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RE: Roland GK-3 guitar midi pick up
April 29, 08 3:29 PM
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Can't grow with the GR-30/or 20. They are what they are.
With the GI-20 you're tapped into your PC. The only way to go..for me.
You really don't want to buy my GR-30. Money better spent on Spectrasonics. Trust me.
Michael
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Truckermusic
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RE: Roland GK-3 guitar midi pick up
April 30, 08 8:50 AM
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Spacey...........
that does make sense to me.......because I can see the possibilities of being plugged straight into the PC........So I'm really thinking the GK-3 and the GI-20 is really the way to go for me as well.....
Thanks
Cliff
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