jcschild
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Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
HI,
does anyone have Waves working on the newer Penryn (45nm) processors?
according to Waves tech support:
Waves is not supported on 45 nm processors, no work around and not know when the fix in the future will be.
so lets think about that
thats ALL of Apples new lines
thats all of any big box company (dell etc)
that most of the pro audio builders aside from a the slow adobters.
so 99% of new computers cant run waves?
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/14 18:26:50
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What possible difference could there be that would both break Waves and that would be hard to fix? I can't imagine what it would be. Did the vector instructions or some other fundamental opcodes change in these new processors in some non-backwards compatible way? Seems like you would have to dig pretty deep to have a heavy dependency on something that would have gotten broken. Given that ProTools systems are probably the bulk of Waves' revenues, and that a lot of PT folks use Apple systems, it doesn't seem like they would have much choice in the matter, but get it fixed quickly.
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jcschild
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/14 18:31:13
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yeah its only a die shrink not a new processor.
i dont get it. got a system in front of me no worky.... dang i hate to get caught with my pants down
i never bothered to test Waves. whoda thunk it
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/14 18:38:59
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I wouldn't worry too much .. waves will be updated, I'm sure, but to how long that would take, who knows.
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/14 20:52:44
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waves plugs work on my wolfdale which is 45 nm
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dance_lets@yahoo.com
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/14 20:59:45
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I just won't buy software which is machine locked. Except for Windoze because I had no choice, but now with Linux getting so solid. There isn't much else I need windoes for besides Sonar these days .... ORIGINAL: jcschild
HI,
does anyone have Waves working on the newer Penryn (45nm) processors?
according to Waves tech support:
Waves is not supported on 45 nm processors, no work around and not know when the fix in the future will be.
so lets think about that
thats ALL of Apples new lines
thats all of any big box company (dell etc)
that most of the pro audio builders aside from a the slow adobters.
so 99% of new computers cant run waves?
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slartabartfast
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/15 03:29:21
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jcschild
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/15 09:13:12
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yeah SSE4 is what i am thinking
Destructo, which waves?
i can only get GTR3 working, no gold no ren maxx.
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Fog
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/15 09:42:18
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ORIGINAL: dance_lets
There isn't much else I need windoes for besides Sonar these days ....
pretty much the case for all music software.. I use linux myself
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/15 10:57:22
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ORIGINAL: jcschild
yeah SSE4 is what i am thinking
I don't see how as I don't think any plugins adress SSE 4 instructions.
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/15 11:18:36
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ORIGINAL: Alndln
ORIGINAL: jcschild
yeah SSE4 is what i am thinking
I don't see how as I don't think any plugins adress SSE 4 instructions.
Unless you have seen the source code for all plugins, you can't really know that no plugs address them. Assembly coders are pretty much free to do anything...although some of those things can end up chewing their hinder parts.
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Alndln
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/15 12:58:02
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ORIGINAL: dantarbill
Unless you have seen the source code for all plugins, you can't really know that no plugs address them. The plugins Scott was having trouble with were from the Gold Bundle in which nearly all of the plugins were created long before SSE 4 was in exsistance. SSE 4 only became availible on intel chips late 2007. In fact I'm pretty that sure the developers here on this site said something to the effect that they didn't see any audio benifits. I'm fairly certain that SSE 4 isn't the problem here unless there's a problem with Intels instruction set itself, but I really wouldn't know.
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dantarbill
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/15 13:22:16
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ORIGINAL: Alndln
ORIGINAL: dantarbill
Unless you have seen the source code for all plugins, you can't really know that no plugs address them.
The plugins Scott was having trouble with were from the Gold Bundle in which nearly all of the plugins were created long before SSE 4 was in exsistance. SSE 4 only became availible on intel chips late 2007...
I'll give you that one. So...the next armchair theory would be that the introduction of the SSE4 instructions somehow broke some other existing functionality, in a very subtle...and Waves specific way.
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jcschild
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/15 14:24:47
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ahhh you guys are missing the issue.
its not the plugs themselves its the new VST wrapper Waves uses (since 5.4 and up i think)
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Hard2Hear
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/15 16:57:30
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Which means its really the new "security measures" that Waves has been using that is fowled up.
Gottal love a plugin with iLok and 10 more levels of security before you can access the actual software.
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jcschild
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/23 11:29:52
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JJones74
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/23 11:46:25
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ORIGINAL: jcschild
might be fixed
http://www.wavesupport.net/Content.aspx?id=4090
Go figure.. LoL.. I drop the Waves stuff figuring it may take a while for them to fix the "bug" and they fix it in a week.. LoL. Oh well, I'm sure I'll be more than happy with my UAD-1 UltraPak..  Side note: The new DAW you guys built for me is AWESOME!!
post edited by JJones74 - 2008/05/23 11:51:47
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RE: Waves and Penryn buyer beware!
2008/05/23 14:06:28
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