P5 rewire host to Reason problem - sort of resolved

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2008/05/15 17:51:03 (permalink)

P5 rewire host to Reason problem - sort of resolved

I have just tried to rewire Reason 4 to P5 2.5 (as host) for the first time and as soon as Reason tries to open within P5, Reason stops with the error message 'Engine not responding. Please check your rewire host'.

Any clues what is going wrong here please?

I subsequently tested the following with P5 as the host.

Reaper loaded and opened up without any problems.

Orion Platinum 7.5 had to be opened manually as a slave before it would work.

Live Lite 6 would only open manually as a slave and reported a rewire problem with the host.
post edited by Goseba - 2008/05/23 13:45:44
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    Fog
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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/15 19:29:05 (permalink)
    Goseba

    are you running the latest update of reason, as there is one on props site, not the shipped cd. the rewire lib with 4 is the latest one.

    also how are both the audio's setup , both asio? etc.. if it's not the same mode (wdm + asio) that might cause an issue also.

    normally reason goes into slave mode after it's opened after p5 / cubase / sonar etc.

    my guess is it's not triggering reason into slave mode , hence the error message. if you go on the props site, try reinstalling the Rewire DLL off there. see if it fixes it.

    post edited by Fog - 2008/05/15 19:53:11
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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/16 02:36:09 (permalink)
    Hi Fog,
    All are at the latest version. Both use ASIO although I have tried different combinations of drivers, ASIO and others, and it makes no difference.

    Reason says it is in rewire mode when opening but then I get the error message before it can fully load.

    Using Reaper as the host, P5, Reason and Orion slave up ok.

    I'll try reinstalling the rewire dll tonight to see if it makes a difference.
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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/16 10:46:32 (permalink)
    it could be the rewire dll version - try a forum search on "rewire dll version"

    hth
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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/16 13:46:33 (permalink)
    The latest Prop's rewire update made no difference.

    Is there a way to replace the P52rewire.dll I have installed without uninstalling everything?
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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/16 15:44:18 (permalink)
    I uninstalled P5 and reinstalled it. I tested out rewiring Reason at the 2.5 update and it worked fine. I then installed the 2.5.1 update and then rewire was broken again. I had kept a copy of the 2.5 version P52rewire.dll and swapped it over but it made no difference.

    So after uninstalling again, I have installed to just the 2.5 update.
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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/16 18:17:36 (permalink)
    I think P5 copies rewire.dll somewhere. If you do not launch P5 after installing 2,5 and then install 2.5.1 everything should be fine. I remember vaguelly deleting the dll, but by now all significant details are gone from my memory... sorry.

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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/23 04:55:24 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: rcross

    I think P5 copies rewire.dll somewhere. If you do not launch P5 after installing 2,5 and then install 2.5.1 everything should be fine. I remember vaguelly deleting the dll, but by now all significant details are gone from my memory... sorry.



    This made no difference to rewiring Reason at all.

    I had the 'official' process from Cakewalk support, which I have followed twice now and it makes no difference. I am still unable to rewire in Reason. I have had to raise another support request now for this.

    And to make matters worse, P5 keeps crashing on me now. Even a simple project with a couple of tracks and a couple of patterns keeps crashing every few minutes. Previously P5 was pretty solid.

    Looks like I will have to do yet another uninstall and reinstall. :-(
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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/23 07:59:36 (permalink)

    I don't rewire so this is working from memory
    but what people are saying about the rewire.dll triggers a memory. People have had this problem before and I think it was because of multiple copies of the rewire.dll were installed and/or one version not compatible with another

    I'd recommend a search of your system for that rewire.dll and delete (or rename to be safe) the older ones and kee just one copy of the latest one.
    Maybe this will trigger someone else's memory of this problem and you'll get better information.


     


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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/23 08:15:02 (permalink)
    did you try a forum search on "rewire dll version" ? there's plenty of discussion around this
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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/23 08:52:27 (permalink)
    Thanks pwal. I did have a look the other day but have just been going though the searches again.

    I will check for rewire.dll's tonight. Should there be just one? Is it common for all programs or does each program have it's own?

    Deleting rewire.dll wasn't in the instructions I was given by CW support.


    EDIT:Typo.
    post edited by Goseba - 2008/05/23 09:30:15
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    wrench45us
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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/23 11:25:47 (permalink)

    well think about it
    this DAW can be a host or slave with rewire -- so they supply a rewire.dll with the product

    and this DAW and that DAW are in similar position, so they all ship with a rewire.dll

    it opens the door for some confusion


     


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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/23 13:00:18 (permalink)
    Right, I uninstalled it all again as per CW support instructions. I also deleted the .dll from the system32 folder.

    I reinstalled it all including all updates and guess what, it still wouldn't work. I checked the.dll in the system32 folder and it was 1.7.

    I took a flyer and reinstalled just the 2.5 update over the top, having found earlier that it worked after checking it previously at version 2.5.

    Low and behold, Reason rewires in to P5........

    So it looks like it is the 2.5.1 update that is screwing it up.
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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/23 13:08:35 (permalink)
    if 2.5 works for you stick with that

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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/23 13:24:22 (permalink)
    I will be :-)

    I can't actually find out what features (as well as bug fixes) it added. I guess if I don't know, and I haven't used them, I won't miss them !






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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/23 13:36:55 (permalink)
    not sure either, but a small bit of info here:

    http://www.project5.com/support/version2.5/251.asp

    have fun!

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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/23 13:38:52 (permalink)
    Yep, that was all I could find.
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    RE: P5 rewire host to Reason problem 2008/05/23 13:46:32 (permalink)
    well there ya go; i thought i was running 2.5.1 but help/about says 2.5.0, as does the readme file...

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