It's more funny that Acen was sued by George Harrison for his tune "window in the sky".. acen + dyce were a power house as far as production house records went.. you'd probably know "let me be your fantasy" by Baby D.. that's dyce's work and he got ripped off. When it went big years later , that showed who the sharks were.
I miss the whole sample it, worry about things later side of things or the majors denied use of any sampling. Moreso due to the fact they wanted to keep grip on things, even if a tune was good, they simply couldn't buy into it it or control it from a money angle. It was more fun hoping the company pressing the records wouldn't notice iffy samples and refuse to press the vinyl.. (not that I know anyone who has ever done that *cough*
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there are plenty of things I'd really LOVE to sample to use and chop up , BUT some things you stay well clear off. esp. the Beatles. Their label (apple corp) don't mess.
tom's dinner.. DNA's rework of the Suzanne Vega's song.. lots knew of her because of this rework.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxkzPsmY1Zg )
look at it from the angle of samplists also make credible remixers.. esp.. in 4hero's case, they rework a tune in their style.
Black Gold Sun easily comes to mind, they were respectful to the original BUT added their own twist at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxkzPsmY1Zg "A LOT of people that think of themselves as producers but really are just loopy loopers " - kev11111111111111 , I have to disagree in the sense of it's what you do to the loops for a start, processing wise + say if it's a drum loop totally re-arrange it. Even moreso when the tools were far less advanced... an akai 950 + an atari ST.. and SERIOUS amounts of time mangling up things. It's what you do with the source material really, be lazy or be creative with it.
as for hip hop / RnB.. hhmm theres a lot of it I don't like now, as some of it is VERY lazy how the tune is programmed / arranged. The newer stuff I find that with. Ironically a guy in Drum N Bass (adam F) produced some of L.L. Cool Jay's songs, years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4iMHuwhaPE is probably Adam F's best known song. It's one of the tunes I drop to none DnB people, and they like it, and hate to admit it.
the most well known things sampling wise I can think of that really made noise >
vanilla Ice
Blue boy - remember me
Danger mouse - the white album
people do sometimes approach remixers who do bootleg versions of songs, electric avenue by eddy grant, started out as a bootleg remix. Some have the sense to realise it's a new avenue (pardon the pun) to get a new audience for their music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-X2v6GcICY the remixer fee is not a lot and the original artist is getting the writing royalties.. same with things like Jason Nevins remix of the Run DMC track "it's like that"
without sampling , there wouldn't be a lot of things I do like.. prime example .. daft punk.. and Kayne West has used their work (but yet I prefer Daft Punk's infinitly more)
There is another tune "timber" by "grantby" which I like also, that uses music off Bond films, but it's a nice tune.
the thing to figure out is if the person messing with the samples just likes making music OR is all about the money, a lot of the time it's very transparent their motives. Are they worried about the record companies share holders.. or the people who are the music buying public..
post edited by Fog - 2008/05/24 15:56:41