michael japan
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Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
will spend about $1500 and don't need monitors/soundcard or anything external. Will go with Core 2 Duo or Quad--- intel the best I can get. Want suggestions for the motherboard/ram/HD's/DVD burner etc. Buying something in the States and having it shipped here is not an option--customs would eat me alive so specs are better. Don't bother to try to talk me into another CPU. Thanks everyone. Mic
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RE: Building a DAW--thanks for help
2008/05/21 22:29:31
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Hello Michael, LTNS. IIWY, I'd use the Search function above. (between Member List and FAQ). With the desired part name as the Search Term and Jim Roseberry or jcschild as By Author. Be sure to select Search All Forums and Sort result by Post Date. HTH.
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RE: Building a DAW--thanks for help
2008/05/21 23:30:02
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ASUS P5K-E motherboard rocks 4Gb of A-DATA DDR2 800MHz ram is more than enough ,hard drives WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR or SEAGATE BARRACUDA a minimum of 160GB for your OS and programs and a seperate 500Gb hard drive for your project files and audio data. I recommend a third drive if your doing video to keep that seperate to this improves streaming . An LG multi with lightscribe , OH and why go dual when you`ll just end up wanting a quad core anyway ( i have over a 1000 plug-ins in sonar and with my old dual intel core it took 3.5 minutes to scan and open now with the quad it takes less than 5 seconds to open no lie.
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michael japan
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RE: Building a DAW--thanks for help
2008/05/22 00:55:28
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thanks to both of you. Yes, Jim would be a good guy to check out--I had actually thought of you as well but search could be the way to go. I was just interested in the latest since I only upgrade every few years. I am still using a Pentium 4 3.2 Prescott with 2GB RAM. Am doing orchestrations now and to have Ivory, EWQLSO, Giga, B4 plus vocals, drums, guitars is choking my system at 5.8. Programs keep getting bigger and more CPU heavy. I will pass on my present computer to my smaller studio. Quad huh? I'll look into it.
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RE: Building a DAW--thanks for help
2008/05/22 01:07:12
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you didn`t know the quad core was out hmm.
Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
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let him who hath understanding.....
reckon the number of the beast.....
for it is a human number...
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666 So if JESUS rose from the DEAD Does that mean he`s the ORIGINAL ZOMBIE?
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michael japan
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RE: Building a DAW--thanks for help
2008/05/22 03:20:02
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ORIGINAL: alkie
you didn`t know the quad core was out hmm.
Busy schedule--I only research when it is necessary. When I have down time I usually choose to do other things Thanks for your patience. Michael
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michael japan
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 04:50:03
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core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600?
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 08:17:02
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Well, I can say this, with the Q9300 you have a front side bus speed of 1333. The Q6600 starts with a FSB of 1066, but I believe Jim R. has overclocked the Q6600 with a FSB of 1333. So, it really depends on if you are planning to just buy it and go or if you are an overclock fanatic.
The Q9300 is only $60 more on Newegg, so I'd go with that if I wasn't going to try overclocking my system.
Hope this helps,
Tom
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 08:21:31
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and to add to that the Q9300 will over clock to 1600 FSB
better for samples!
plus it has more cache, personally if you can pull it off the Q9450
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michael japan
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 10:08:23
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I just found the 9450--sounds good.
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 10:10:02
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core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600? At the moment the Q9300 is not a good buy. The Q6600 is a much better buy. But the Q9450 is the best buy of all. The Q9300 suffers from a reduced L2 cache 6 MB v the Q6600 of 8 MB. The Q9450 has 12 MB. In order of which is most desirable to have it goes Q9450, Q6600, Q9300. Yes the Q9300 is faster but not by much and its more costly. The only problem with the Q9450 is its hard to fine.
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michael japan
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 10:29:22
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ORIGINAL: John
core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600?
At the moment the Q9300 is not a good buy. The Q6600 is a much better buy. But the Q9450 is the best buy of all. The Q9300 suffers from a reduced L2 cache 6 MB v the Q6600 of 8 MB. The Q9450 has 12 MB. In order of which is most desirable to have it goes Q9450, Q6600, Q9300. Yes the Q9300 is faster but not by much and its more costly. The only problem with the Q9450 is its hard to fine.
thanks. Easy to find here. Thanks for the confirmation John.
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 12:00:43
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Sounds like a great choice. There are dual quad systems, but those are hard to build and latency usually is higher, I'm told. So at this point I assume a Quad is the best buy overall. So...... What other things do you want in that box?
19" or midi tower? Grafic card, memory? What disks? Some 16mb 7200rpm SATAII disks? Like 500GB space per disk? Some brackets for hotswap? (as SATA is natively hotswap). Maybe a MOBO that has an ESATA connector? (so an extra rack with disks can be connected (in the future).)
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 12:02:56
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ORIGINAL: michael japan
I just found the 9450--sounds good.
Went with this a few weeks ago... Totally rocking setup along with ABIT IP 35 Pro mobo... Bought the Q9450 from tankguys.com after reading good reviews about them...no issues... rhythmeus
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 12:09:57
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scott (or anyone),
can I replace my Q6600 with a Q9450 using my Gigabyte P35-DS4 Rev 2.1 and Kingston Hperx 1066 MHZ memory?
If I can and if I did will I really see a difference?
I do not overclock CPU as yet. My room is too hot (until I can get dedicated A/C) and my idle temps are at 40C (room is typically 84F right now).
I do run memory at 1066MHZ.
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 12:22:22
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ORIGINAL: bapu
scott (or anyone),
can I replace my Q6600 with a Q9450 using my Gigabyte P35-DS4 Rev 2.1 and Kingston Hperx 1066 MHZ memory?
If I can and if I did will I really see a difference?
I do not overclock CPU as yet. My room is too hot (until I can get dedicated A/C) and my idle temps are at 40C (room is typically 84F right now).
I do run memory at 1066MHZ.
Yes.
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 13:02:00
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who builds a dual quad core processor i saw 1 site but that`s just a screw up they forgot to put the (or) between dual quad core . i don`t think there is any 8`s out there yet just 4`s ,2`s & singles.
Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
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for it is a human number...
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 13:09:56
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who builds a dual quad core processor i saw 1 site but that`s just a screw up they forgot to put the (or) between dual quad core . i don`t think there is any 8`s out there yet just 4`s ,2`s & singles. Sonica (www.shop-sonica.com) builds a dual quad (2 quad core XEON's of course, I don't think there is such a thing as dual Core 2 system). Not cheap.
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 13:46:15
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wow i`m behind the times already and i just built my DAW last month, but i`d never heard of ZEON`s before only intel & amd athlon cheers for getting me up to speed.
Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
for the devil sends the beast with wrath.....
because he knows the time is short.....
let him who hath understanding.....
reckon the number of the beast.....
for it is a human number...
it`s number is.....
666 So if JESUS rose from the DEAD Does that mean he`s the ORIGINAL ZOMBIE?
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 14:24:41
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Its Xeons and its Intel. Its for servers. They, as a class, have been around a long time.
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 15:10:14
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i guess i never thought of buying a server as a DAW
Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
for the devil sends the beast with wrath.....
because he knows the time is short.....
let him who hath understanding.....
reckon the number of the beast.....
for it is a human number...
it`s number is.....
666 So if JESUS rose from the DEAD Does that mean he`s the ORIGINAL ZOMBIE?
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 15:27:34
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Single chip Xeons (The x3000 series) are essentially just relabeled desktop processors (possibly tested longer and/or with lapped heat spreaders, depending on who you believe). They are LGA775 and pin-compatible with desktop LGA775 boards. I ended up with an x3350 because the q9450 was hard to find at the time, and they are the same chip.
Definitely +1 on the recommendations for the q9450 or any q9x50 chip -- they are 45nm process, which means they use less power, which means less heat, which means less cooling, which means less noise. Plus they overclock like crazy -- I'm running my x3350 at 3.5ghz and it's rock solid. YMMV of course.
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 15:41:35
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Single chip Xeons (The x3000 series) are essentially just relabeled desktop processors (possibly tested longer and/or with lapped heat spreaders, depending on who you believe). They are LGA775 and pin-compatible with desktop LGA775 boards. I ended up with an x3350 because the q9450 was hard to find at the time, and they are the same chip.
Definitely +1 on the recommendations for the q9450 or any q9x50 chip -- they are 45nm process, which means they use less power, which means less heat, which means less cooling, which means less noise. Plus they overclock like crazy -- I'm running my x3350 at 3.5ghz and it's rock solid. YMMV of course.
Yep thats a great chip too. I would have gotten it if it was available at the time. These chips seem to be in great demand. Both the Xeon version and the Q9450 are the best value if you can get hold of one.
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 17:34:32
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(room is typically 84F right now).
Holy Crap!!!!!!!! That's too hot.
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 19:09:12
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(room is typically 84F right now).
Holy Crap!!!!!!!! That's too hot.
You're telling me. That's F not C and it's the room not the CPU. The CPU runs idle at 40C when the room is 84F. I'm not usually doing studio stuff during the week until the evening (gotta go to work to pay the bills). But it's tuff on the weekends. Next year I hope to add dedicated A/C (the room is a nicely converted garage but does not have any A/C).
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 22:42:07
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bapu wrote (room is typically 84F right now). Dude open a window!!!!! 
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
2008/05/22 22:46:42
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bapu wrote
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(room is typically 84F right now).
Dude open a window!!!!! What! And let in the heat?
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RE: Building a DAW--core 2 quad Q9300 or Q6600
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bapu wrote
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(room is typically 84F right now).
Dude open a window!!!!!
What! And let in the heat? 
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