Static in audio recording

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2008/05/26 15:49:16 (permalink)

Static in audio recording

You guys have probably answered this a hundred times already, but I guess I never paid attention cause I'm just a midi gal. But today I actually tried recording some vocals for a song. Yeah, scary thing. Anyway, on some of the tracks I'm getting static now and then. Doesn't seem to be clipping and the internet's turned off on my c/w computer. I'm using an N/D767 mic and an amp of my son's. The weirdest thing is that it only does it now and then. Anyway, any ideas?
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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 16:09:18 (permalink)
    Tell us how you have the signal routed, especially at the amp.
    Off the top of my head, I'm thinking a hot gain stage, or possibly too much energy at the mic at times.
    If your signal is distorted (ie, the static), it can carry through, even though the level in your DAW looks good.
    Can you post a clip, or email it?

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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 16:34:20 (permalink)
    Thanks Bob. First of all--how I have the signal routed? I'm not sure I know what you mean. Sorry. I'm really new at this! But if you can be more specific, I'll try to oblige.

    I was just sitting here with the music off and realized my computer makes noises now and then. Could it have picked that up?

    And lastly, I can send you an email of the clip--you mean an mp3?
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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 16:54:10 (permalink)
    Am MP3 would be fine.
    What I'm looing for is how you have everything connected. The amp could have several different inputs and outputs, and some may be better than others to use. What amp is it (Make/model)?
    What are the labels on the jacks you are plugged into? ie, mic to "X input". Does the amp have a Line-Out? Is this connected to your Delta192?
    Hope that makes sense. Sometimes noise like static can be hard to pin down.
    post edited by RobertB - 2008/05/26 17:15:01

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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 16:55:01 (permalink)
    post it on soundclick if you want and we'll both take a listen.

    as far as routing, he means tell us how you have everything plugged into everything else. what do you have things plugged into. you have the mic plugged into the amp, into which jack? and you have the amp plugged into your soundcard? from what output jack? details of things like that is what he's asking for.

    also - what is the make and model of this amp?

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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 16:58:29 (permalink)
    Amd the mic. I got the model, but who makes that? I should probably know this, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment.

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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 17:01:27 (permalink)
    ElectroVoice. EV. Dynamic, so there's no problem there with lack of phantom power.
    post edited by Beagle - 2008/05/26 17:22:00

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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 17:51:12 (permalink)
    Well, soundclick would be a little scary at this point. I mean, someone might actually LISTEN to it! I'll email it to you too, Reece.

    OK, the amp is a bass amp--yeah, probably not the best, but it's all I've got right now. It's a Crate MXB50.

    The mic is plugged into one of two input jacks and the I have a cord running from the speaker jack to my soundcard.

    If you need more info, just let me know. And thanks!
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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 18:32:00 (permalink)
    The static may be coming from the Speaker out connection to your sound card. That amp does not have a Line-Level direct output. Even at low levels, the speaker output is much too strong, even if your meters don't reflect it, and is more than capable of destroying your sound card.
    Stop right now!!!
    I would highly recomment getting a Behringer Xenyx802 or comperable mixer. These are inexpensive, and suited to what you want to do there.

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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 18:35:11 (permalink)
    Thanks for that, Robert. Would the headphone-out jack work?

    On second thought, I think I just buy the Behringer Xenyx802. I want a friend to sing on a song for me and I just realized that if I don't have the right equipment, it won't work. I haven't bought anything for awhile, so it's about time, right?
    post edited by Mamabear - 2008/05/26 19:07:20
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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 18:49:40 (permalink)
    Glad I caught you in time.
    I don't know which is more sickening, the smell of burning electronics, or the realization of what you just did.
    The headphone out should be ok, and much safer. It will do, just keep an eye on your levels.
    There are other considerations, like impedance and other technical stuff that make the amp less than ideal for your mic.
    For now, it will probably be ok, but if you can swing $60 for a mixer, it will be much better for your mic and overall sound quality, as well as the safety of your hardware.

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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 18:51:50 (permalink)
    Yeah, I'm glad you did too. Thanks! I'm ordering that baby now. And unlike some of you guys, I've got it made--my husband buys so much photography equipment that he won't even blink an eye about this little purchase! lol.

    So I guess I don't need to send you the mp3, right? I'd rather wait till it's a bit more polished, if ever. lol
    post edited by Mamabear - 2008/05/26 19:12:35
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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 19:01:03 (permalink)
    No, don't worry about sending the MP3. I'll wait for the Soundclick debut.
    That's not fair. I AM the husband with all the expensive hobbies (I think those two words are synonymous).
    Although, Donna's books add up pretty quick.
    Enjoy your new toy!

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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 19:02:34 (permalink)
    Thanks, Bob. Now I get to redo all those vocals. But they need to be re-done anyway and it was good practice.
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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 20:24:40 (permalink)
    Janet that's scary. Speaker out to soundcard in...that would cause static for sure. You are fortunate the static wasn't the inputs of the soundcard frying. Good to see you're on the road to recovery.

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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 21:33:34 (permalink)
    And you said the computer is staticky now? Just playing a CD or streaming audio you're still getting static? Check your speaker connections, just jiggle then with your hand to see if you hear any noise.
    I once wanted more power/distortion from my guitar amp, so I used an old 15 watt amp with the speaker outs plugged right into my main amps input. Nice and loud, and distorted.

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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 22:11:55 (permalink)
    I bet you can sing, anyone who plays the piano as great as you can knows how to make the tones.

    Don't be scared, I sound like my next door neighbors whining dog that keeps me up at night why I am trying to sleep. Hmmmm, I wonder if that's why I keep thinking of starting a band and calling it "Dogfood"........ Who knows, your voice is another instrument and I'm sure you have a great one!

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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 23:01:53 (permalink)
    Thanks, Greg. No, it just hums weird sometimes. (it's always done that.) I don't think I fried anything. Distortion could maybe help my voice though! lol

    Freeze: I have no idea why people seem to assume that a piano player can sing. They used to say, "Janet, come help us learn our parts! No, don't sing with us, just help us with the parts!" lol But I'm workin' on it!
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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 23:12:42 (permalink)
    I know what you mean Janet. I've always been harsh with myself about my voice. But as I am getting older, I seem to accept it more LOL. Also, there is so much you can do now with vocals you can sound like whoever you want! I'm hoping to get a voice/pitch correction program someday too! Just kidding (not about the software), I like to keep it as natural sounding as possible, but I've used a bit of compression and reverb. Also, when I use PowerTracks they have TC Helcion harmonies. So even though it's really following your voice, it sounds different. You can select voive gender and everything. The male voices on the programs are definitely better. The female voices sound like the chipmunks for some reason! The other thing I've done is record two tracks of my voice (do a straight copy of the track if you want). It will make your vocals stronger/fuller as well. Pan one left and one right. I'm sure there are lots of tips out there.

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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 23:20:25 (permalink)
    I have no idea why people seem to assume that a piano player can sing.

    That's funny, Janet. I'm 6'4", and people always assume I play basketball. I stink at the game.
    Whenever people ask if I play basketball, I just say, "No, do you play miniature golf?"

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    RE: Static in audio recording 2008/05/26 23:48:48 (permalink)
    Annette--thanks for the ideas!

    Bob--that's a good one!
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